Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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TechnoVol said:
I'm worried about Chandler. He had a bad concussion last year and now another one. London was also concussed yesterday.
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when chandler and smith were both lying on the turf yesterday..........
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millst987 said:
WVU made us look like a D2 squad. I’m shocked so many are still believing we will somehow turn it around quickly. Maybe they watched a different game than me. Yesterday, I was stone cold sober, and I watched the whole game to get a gauge of the new regime/team. I saw a WVU team get a nice tune up game against a D2 type of squad. I’m sorry, it’s what it looked like to me. Imagine if we had played App St! This place would have imploded.
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We're not a good football team, simply put. That had a total 2010-2013 Tennessee football feel to it yesterday. Long ways to go.
 
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Memphisvol87 said:
We know what we have, and it’s a combination of talent issues and learning a new scheme on both sides of the ball. Recruiting rankings, evaluations, whatever you call it were either dead wrong on a few guys or they we truly ruined by the previous staff and are facing their last shot at redemption.

Pruitt said it in the fall camp to the secondary. “ if you’re going to get beat, you’re going to get beat playing my way”. Well flowers looks talented in run support but he got exploited playing man and wvu took advantage as they should have.

Pruitt, for better or worse, is playing his system and these guys will either learn or get beat until he can recruit someone to play it correctly.

Lack of pressure on the qb definitely didn’t help a young secondary .

The offense showed some great pieces but it will completely depend on the line settling in. I think Guarantano, the receivers, and especially the backs look dangerous enough to score some points. The first few snaps the line just flat out whiffed, and they’re lucky Guarantano wasn’t killed. Looked better as the game went on.

My uneducated guess is we will make a bowl/miss a bowl strictly based on the offensive line play.
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i think we're just gonna have to live with the defense. it's gonna be a work in progresss. i don't read too much in to the pressure, or lack thereof, yesterday simply due to how they distribute the ball. they get rid of it quick. and there were moments where we did apply good pressure.

i think the O Line will get better..but that's based on 2 things...1. staying healthy and 2. staying healthy enough that you can get some continuity with a group of 5.....if things happen to disrupt that development, it's gonna be tough.
 
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millst987 said:
WVU made us look like a D2 squad. I’m shocked so many are still believing we will somehow turn it around quickly. Maybe they watched a different game than me. Yesterday, I was stone cold sober, and I watched the whole game to get a gauge of the new regime/team. I saw a WVU team get a nice tune up game against a D2 type of squad. I’m sorry, it’s what it looked like to me. Imagine if we had played App St! This place would have imploded.
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I'm still undecided how good WV is. My gut tells me they are a top 15 team but we made them look like a playoff team which is bad. Maybe they are truly that good? It'll play out in the next few weeks but it's definitely hard to take many positives, as a team, from yesterday. I expect them to improve but they've got so far to go I'm not sure it will show up in the win/loss column. My prediction is that we beat our non-conference opponents and win one SEC game, probably Vandy or KY and finish 5-7. And, we will struggle against one of the non-conference opponents.
 
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LA Vol said:
Need to focus on accelerating the newcomers and beating UF. If we lose to UF in Neyland on the 20th anniversary en route to a 2-6 start, a lot of fans will check out on the season. UF is the pivot game.
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LA, I just don’t think we have the horses to get a W against UF right now.
 
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LA Vol said:
Need to focus on accelerating the newcomers and beating UF. If we lose to UF in Neyland on the 20th anniversary en route to a 2-6 start, a lot of fans will check out on the season. UF is the pivot game.
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I agree. Even with a win over fl, the fans may check out after the Bama,GA,Auburn, SC stretch.
 
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Sigh...hide the razors from Chief.

How many seasons have teams started off one way but ended up another, especially under a new head coach? This team hasn't found its way, under this new staff, and it may take a few weeks to do so. Or maybe this is how it will be all season...I doubt it but, who knows. What I do know is that they HAVE to get this mentality of folding like a lawn chair when things get tough out of their heads, otherwise the season is already lost.

Beat ETSU like a drum and exercise some old demons next week then get ready to beat Florida.

New day, new attitude.
 
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Rishvol said:
Major over reaction right there. WVU could only score on big plays. Offense didn't have many 3 and outs. Huge improvement from last year.
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You have to be kidding me. They only scored on big plays? They moved the football on that defense with ease dude lol. We got absolutely smoked by a team that was head and shoulders above us. Take the orange glasses off.
 
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UCLA lost to Cincy at home? Wonder if those fans are giving up on Chip like some of you are giving up on Pruitt after one game. Hahaha.

Fact is WVU is legit and we’re further away from being good than most of us thought. But also there will be improvement over the next two weeks. We’ll know a lot more about this team when the gators come to town. Must find a pass rush if we want to make a bowl game.
 
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millst987 said:
LA, I just don’t think we have the horses to get a W against UF right now.
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I agree... I think it will be a close game, but we just don't have the developed talent we need right now. Depth will show it's ugly head in that game. I still can't get over how bad and ill-prepared our secondary and back end was yesterday... We will struggle to beat any team with that kind of effort back there.
 
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If we score on 4th down and it’s 33-21 and it ends 36-21 with their fg instead of a dumb offsides and a garbage td how does everyone feel? Much better I’d presume. Is there work to be done? Yes. But please don’t act like all of a sudden Florida is impossible. If you would like to discuss it with that argument let me direct you to a more appropriate forum Tennessee Vols Football
 
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LA Vol said:
Need to focus on accelerating the newcomers and beating UF. If we lose to UF in Neyland on the 20th anniversary en route to a 2-6 start, a lot of fans will check out on the season. UF is the pivot game.
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Honestly, I don't understand why we are doing a 20th anniversary celebration. That may just be me and I'm not trying to be negative about it. I just think this sets the team up for a very high pressure situation. We need to stop that.
 
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millst987 said:
LA, I just don’t think we have the horses to get a W against UF right now.
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Then a lot of fans and donors will check out on the season and Neyland will have as much red as orange for Bama. Attendance will plummet from there. UF is a very big weekend for UT. I wish they hadn't scheduled the 20th stuff then.
 
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Ron Swanson said:
UCLA lost to Cincy at home? Wonder if those fans are giving up on Chip like some of you are giving up on Pruitt after one game. Hahaha.

Fact is WVU is legit and we’re further away from being good than most of us thought. But also there will be improvement over the next two weeks. We’ll know a lot more about this team when the gators come to town. Must find a pass rush if we want to make a bowl game.
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I am certainly not giving up on this team at all, I still totally believe in this coaching staff top to bottom, I am just a little shocked at how poorly we played in the secondary... I figured we would struggle on the D line and a few other areas...

People need to understand that these are the last coach's kids and their development and attitude are a direct result of his poor coaching. It will take time to wash the stink off and I think a lot of us thought we were farther along by just having better chemistry and a new staff. A few more things go our way yesterday and the refs actually call some penalties, and we lose respectably...

The O line, WR/play calling, and hopefully LB play will improve, but what worries me is getting push and pressure up front on the D line and something HAS to improve in the secondary or we are toast the rest of the season.
 
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So here’s a play that i watched again...



We come out in a cover 2 man under look. Which honestly should cover this play perfectly:

Diagramed like this:


The problem is the Lb bites on the playfake instead of dropping straight back. Even though Buchanan was beat and chasing, if the LB doesn’t bite and drops back that route has to go deeper and would be a tougher throw and closer to the safety.... and I’m not even going to comment on Abernathy’s tackle attempt.

Good call, poor execution.
 

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HankHill said:
So here’s a play that i watched again...



We come out in a cover 2 man under look. Which honestly should cover this play perfectly:

Diagramed like this:


The problem is the Lb bites on the playfake instead of dropping straight back. Even though Buchanan was beat and chasing, if the LB doesn’t bite and drops back that route has to go deeper and would be a tougher throw and closer to the safety.... and I’m not even going to comment on Abernathy’s tackle attempt.

Good call, poor execution.
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I think pruitt said he had the right calls dialed up but we didnt execute (clearly)
 
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