Recruiting Forum Football Talk [RIP 9.3.2019]

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We're going to get to see the fruits of what a real staff can do with our players next Saturday. There will be bumps on the way as with any new staff, but I expect us to come out and play harder than we did last year, which can be the difference in games. Love that were healthier at this point of camp than it seems we ever were under Butch. 13 more days until we unleash the new era!
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
The only real personell situation issue I have is at QB. I am honest in this. I just do not think KC is a good QB at all, and I don't think he has any potential to mine either. I think the offense is going to look like 2005s with him at QB, only worse.

BUT...I hope he makes a fool out of me IF he gets chosen to start. I am not posting this to continue my ongoing diatribe about this, I am just answering your question.
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Even if we are truly looking at two average QB's at best, I am hoping this new staff's ability to change the culture, attitude, and their ability to finally maximize player potential/development helps to mask and overcome average QB play.
From what we've all read (believe to what extent you want) about the negative/toxic culture within this program over the past few seasons, I have to believe there's much more talent and potential on this team than what took the field last year. There will be a noticeable difference in discipline, scheme, and fight on the field that may overcome QB play.
 
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volinbama256 said:
Even if we are truly looking at two average QB's at best, I am hoping this new staff's ability to change the culture, attitude, and their ability to finally maximize player potential/development helps to mask and overcome average QB play.
From what we've all read (believe to what extent you want) about the negative/toxic culture within this program over the past few seasons, I have to believe there's much more talent and potential on this team than what took the field last year. There will be a noticeable difference in discipline, scheme, and fight on the field that may overcome QB play.
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I’m not sure that Pruitt even cares about having a world class qb- he comes off to me as a guy who wants to have control of the game and he wants to hold all the cards. If that’s the case, then really you just need an average qb that can make some plays and not screw up. I don’t think he’s going to give one guy the playbook and let him go to town.
 
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hotcypress said:
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Haney will actually only be covering the Titans.
 
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BruinVol said:
Does Kirby call his own defenses at Ga?
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We almost hired Mel Tucker, so I imagine he was calling the defense...(GOS, this is being answered from the girl who jumped for joy over the idea that CJP was acting as our DC this year, when everyone else on this board knew this months ago.)
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
Shopping tonight, I grabbed a bag of pecans, but held it a bit out of sight, asking my wife if she “want deez?”

She blew it up though 😁
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crazyguy said:
I’m not sure that Pruitt even cares about having a world class qb- he comes off to me as a guy who wants to have control of the game and he wants to hold all the cards. If that’s the case, then really you just need an average qb that can make some plays and not screw up. I don’t think he’s going to give one guy the playbook and let him go to town.
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If you go by the qbs he's recruiting (Shrout and Maurer) and the offensive assistants he's hired, then I don't get the vibe that is what he wants. Both of those qbs are big armed guys that throw deep a lot and threw a lot of picks in hs. Doesn't seem like he's just wanting guys who don't screw up to me. Maybe that's all orchestrated to confuse WVU though.
 
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zhangliao04 said:
I really wanted to keep Robert Gillespie. He was a good coach and you could tell his players really liked him.
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Honestly, he's the only one I think would be better than what we currently have, and that's no slight on Weinke. He's got a very good resume.
 
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Brillovol said:
Honestly, he's the only one I think would be better than what we currently have, and that's no slight on Weinke. He's got a very good resume.
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Weinke does have connections. I guess it ultimately came down to scheme and teaching philosophy, but I really wanted to keep RG. I'm glad he never got the chance to be the OC.
 
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Sleegro said:
If you go by the qbs he's recruiting (Shrout and Maurer) and the offensive assistants he's hired, then I don't get the vibe that is what he wants. Both of those qbs are big armed guys that throw deep a lot and threw a lot of picks in hs. Doesn't seem like he's just wanting guys who don't screw up to me. Maybe that's all orchestrated to confuse WVU though.
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ha...on that last part. i think he wants a qb that can stress a defense. figures a HS qb's interecepiton issue may just be because he's in HS and doens't understand all the how/why things happen. w/the right coaching, a kid like that, can be a weapon if used correctly aginst a defense.

i think as a defensive coordinator, he knows what he doesn't like to see. he doesn't like big powerful offensive lines. he doesn't like big, fast, powerful backs that are hard to tackle, he hates TE's that are a match up nightmare against most LB's and he probably hates big rangy WR's with huge catch radiuses.

and i'm sure he hates QB's that can place the ball down field and make the defense chase.

so offensively, pruitt probably just thinks "i hate this....." and then goes and finds it.

just a theory.
 
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zhangliao04 said:
I really wanted to keep Robert Gillespie. He was a good coach and you could tell his players really liked him.
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My biggest issue with Pruitt by far. That family didn’t deserve to be done like that. I understand why he did it. That’s the business, but I hate it for them.
 
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jakez4ut said:
ha...on that last part. i think he wants a qb that can stress a defense. figures a HS qb's interecepiton issue may just be because he's in HS and doens't understand all the how/why things happen. w/the right coaching, a kid like that, can be a weapon if used correctly aginst a defense.

i think as a defensive coordinator, he knows what he doesn't like to see. he doesn't like big powerful offensive lines. he doesn't like big, fast, powerful backs that are hard to tackle, he hates TE's that are a match up nightmare against most LB's and he probably hates big rangy WR's with huge catch radiuses.

and i'm sure he hates QB's that can place the ball down field and make the defense chase.

so offensively, pruitt probably just thinks "i hate this....." and then goes and finds it.

just a theory.
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I agree with all that. I just don't get the same notion as many on here that he just wants game manager QBs, and I'm basing my opinions on his recruiting and hiring tendencies, not his words. I know he like every coach doesn't want a guy to throw a bunch of ints. And certainly thinks he can coach it out of them. But Pruitt also doesn't strike me as the conservative type just because saban was. Jmo.
 
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Sleegro said:
I agree with all that. I just don't get the same notion as many on here that he just wants game manager QBs, and I'm basing my opinions on his recruiting and hiring tendencies, not his words. I know he like every coach doesn't want a guy to throw a bunch of ints. And certainly thinks he can coach it out of them. But Pruitt also doesn't strike me as the conservative type just because saban was. Jmo.
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agreed. and i think people are having a somewhat difficult time with reconciling all of this with what may be a more conservative approach in 2018.

the goal is to be as balanced as possible. what that looks like in 2018 vs. the rest of his tenure....it'll probably be a little different going forward.
 
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Sleegro said:
I agree with all that. I just don't get the same notion as many on here that he just wants game manager QBs, and I'm basing my opinions on his recruiting and hiring tendencies, not his words. I know he like every coach doesn't want a guy to throw a bunch of ints. And certainly thinks he can coach it out of them. But Pruitt also doesn't strike me as the conservative type just because saban was. Jmo.
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I think they absolutely want Chryst to win the job and the reason a QB hasn’t been named because JG has been consistently more impressive.
 
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