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Outofmyvolcanmind said:
Exactly. Tebow was a tank and had the arm of a 14 year old.
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so I was at a buddy's house and we were all watching a Florida game. The entire time I was ripping Tebow for tossing around farting ducks and having popcorn muscles. they all argued back because they are Florida fans. one of the more vocal ones went to use the bathroom. He came out mid throw and said "aw... we punted?" I said "naw, that farting duck came from Tebows hand." it fell incomplete 10 yards away from anyone.
 
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Practice 1 Observations and Notes: Two new QBs impress

By Vince Ferrara / @VinceSports

Here are my observations, notes and opinions on Tennessee football fall practice 1 on Friday.

Vince’s View
-The first thing I noticed was the black outline around the orange numbers on the white practice jerseys. I loved the look. Could that mean a return to that look this season? I sure hope so. Maybe Jeremy Pruitt is old school enough to make a move like that.
-Because everyone’s talking about the quarterbacks, I kept my eyes on them the most at practice #1
-I was impressed with the calmness, poise and demeanor of grad transfer QB Keller Chryst. He’s a big body and looks the part. He never looked rushed or tense. He has a quiet, quick release. He looked like a vet that had been there, done that.
-I liked our first look at freshman QB JT Shrout as well. He has some juice in the California arm. He was the most accurate of any of the QBs in the roll-out-right deep ball drill. His pass was in-stride with perfect loft.
-QB Jarrett Guarantano was a little high with a few throws that still got to the receivers. You can tell he’s gained muscle and filled-out, which was a must for him.
-QB Will McBride added 14 pounds since last season and he looked like it on the field
-OL Trey Smith was aligned in non-contact technique drills at LT and looked like the massive human being that he always does
-OL coach Will Friend is a constant loud voice at practice. You cannot be soft and coached by him. He’s very demanding of his guys.
-With the extra practice field now available to the team, some position groups were quite a ways from our media viewing area
-Alexis Johnson was working alongside veterans and expected starters Kyle Phillips and Shy Tuttle on a 3 DL unit in drills
-I thought there was an even higher level of intensity and urgency in practice than even the spring.

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millst987 said:
Thanks. You’re right, a guy that big makes you think he should be snapping WR’s fingers due to ball velocity. One thing I noticed in the videos is he seems to be super relaxed and poised. I wonder if that age advantage and calmness will win him the job? I believe having a calm presence in the huddle this year will certainly help considering this is a new system/staff.
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This is exactly why I think Chryst gets the nod. Consider the following scenario- 4th quarter...down by 2 to WV...3rd and 3 on WV’s 30 yard line...Guarantano takes a sack for 9 yards...Vols punt...Vols lose game by 2.

With a razor-thin margin, UT just can’t allow something like this. Guarantano’s consistent lack of awareness overshadows his (arguable) higher ceiling.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
And everybody including me will be beechin about this boring, uncreative and unimaginative three yards and a cloud of dust offense that scores 15 points a game. They better do better than that or the short honeymoon is going to be reeeaaallly short. Old school ball sounds nice and tough now, but when the offense hits the field and it feels like a trip to the dentist for a root canal...everybody will hate it.

I don't really think it will be that way. It better not for all concerned.[/QUOTE}

While I agree it isn't the most exciting football but if it gets us to 6-7 wins year 1 who cares.
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utvols88 said:
so I was at a buddy's house and we were all watching a Florida game. The entire time I was ripping Tebow for tossing around farting ducks and having popcorn muscles. they all argued back because they are Florida fans. one of the more vocal ones went to use the bathroom. He came out mid throw and said "aw... we punted?" I said "naw, that farting duck came from Tebows hand." it fell incomplete 10 yards away from anyone.
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Same thing happened to me only I walked in on a Ric Clausen pass.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
I’m in the same boat as everyone else regarding who our starting QB will be. That’s not my call, thankfully. My best guess is that JG is the starter and KC is his backup. As someone earlier alluded to, I take much of the reporting from fall camp with a grain of salt but what was reported on day one from Rutherford in particular was not at all surprising.

From Rutherford on day one

“I can tell Jarrett Guarantano has been working on his timing and his touch on deep passes. He lofted a beautiful rainbow of a pass down the sidelines about 30 yards or so, and it hit the intended target in stride. He also looks to be in better rhythm than he was during the season last year, but like I said, this was without any pass rushers coming at him or defensive backs guarding the receivers

For Keller Chryst, I saw a quarterback who looks poised in the pocket and definitely seems like he has more experience than anyone else on UT’s roster. I’ve never been impressed with his throwing motion, and it didn’t seem like had as much zip on the ball as Guarantano did today. But his throwing motion was good enough for him to throw 19 touchdowns compared to just six interceptions at Stanford and helped him go 11-2 as a starter, so he makes it work for him.”

This was the report on KC at the Elite 11 finals in 2013.

Count Elite 11 head coach Trent Dilfer among those impressed with the 6'4, 220-pounders skill set and not for the reasons most expect.

It's funny, I don't get enamored by his arm at all," Dilfer said on Saturday evening during a media availability. "I get enamored with his ability to tempo the ball. We were working on a drill that had the tight end coming right in front of the quarterback on a crossing route and Keller just understands throwing a catchable ball. He has a natural ability to tempo and it's a ball that finishes really smooth. I think he gets it just with his release, his snap," Dilfer said. "At times he gets a little bit long, which we've worked on, but he has a really natural snap of his wrist, the way the ball comes off of his fingers and he finishes with his wrist. I think that's why he's able to do it and why he's able to conceptualize it."

This was the report on JG at the Elite 11 finals in 2015.

How good is Guarantano? "He's almost too talented," Dilfer said. Essentially, Guarantano can make every throw in the book — and do so with unmatched speed and power – but needs to spend more time working on his touch. "Layering," basically, meaning the ability to put balls over the tops of defenders rather than relying on pure arm strength to defeat coverage. It's not a huge issue to have at this stage in his development. "He's got everything you could ever want," said Dilfer. I would bet on Guarantano eventually being named MVP of this event. Tennessee is getting a superb prospect.”

From Simonton on day one

“Quick takeaways from what I could see: Jarrett Guarantano took the first rep and threw a perfect ball to Josh Palmer … and it was dropped. The rest of the period was much cleaner, though. I didn’t think Keller Chryst had a ton of zip on his balls, but again, it’s hard to really gauge based on the viewpoints for the media.”

From Patrick Brown on day one

“Keller Chryst is listed at 6-5/239 and that's not off. He's a big cat. Carries himself like he's been here for longer than a couple of months.

Chryst and Jarrett Guarantano were each sharp on the short routes and had at least one overthrow on intermediate-to-deep routes. Freshman JT Shrout also had some sharp throws but was more up and down with his accuracy. The Vols overall probably had more balls hit the ground than they would have liked even for a first day.

The period ended with Guarantano, Will McBride and Shrout rolling out and throwing deep passes down the sideline to slot receivers Brandon Johnson, Latrell Williams and Jacquez Jones. The freshman had the best throw of the three. Johnson had to stop to catch Guarantano's pass, Williams had no chance of catching McBride's overthrown ball and Jones only had to pull up a little bit to catch the pass from Shrout.”

My reasons at his point for guessing JG wins the job is 1) he’s not a freshman any more so I’m expecting a significant jump in his ability to adjust to the speed of an SEC game. 2) He has Helton and Weinke to tutor him.

I think we have two different QBs with two different "styles" and while KC is competing for the job I think we probably also needed a better backup option than what appeared to be available behind JG. Jmo.
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Great summary...thanks!
 
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Jimmy’s blog: How much time should Pruitt get to turn Vols around?
August 1, 2018


"I’ve heard several people say Pruitt’s record in his first season should be thrown out the window – that the key is establishing a culture.

Sorry, I don’t buy that either.

If Tennessee, which had far better talent than its 4-8 record last year, goes 4-8 again, then Pruitt and his staff haven’t done a very good job.

And I don’t think the Vol Nation will care about a culture change if UT goes 3-9.

The record matters. It always does."

Jimmy's blog: How much time should Pruitt get to turn Vols around?
 
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Looks like we are out with the Smokey gray and back in with black. Welcome to the 90’s fellas.

FWIW: I know some hate the black around the numbers, but I hope it’s on the game jerseys just like the practice ones. Those were the glory days for me and for this University.C757B1A7-DCB6-47BD-9DF7-7F104C1CDC0D.jpeg
 
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I am not concerned about anything physical with JG, he has all he needs and the coaches can fine-tune that. I am concerned about his thinking process. He got killed last season because he did not read the D's and make decisions quickly enough. I realize a leaky O-line helped induced it, but in reality, JG was at fault as much as they were. If he doesn't get that part there is nothing else the coaches can do. Which means we will see KC, who does get that part based on observing past games of his at Stanford. I hope JG steps up and takes control of the job so we have stability at the position for a couple of years.
 
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How much has Smith being the grandson of Earl Bruce played in the possible cover up? I mean all of this for a WR coach.
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
Jimmy’s blog: How much time should Pruitt get to turn Vols around?
August 1, 2018


"I’ve heard several people say Pruitt’s record in his first season should be thrown out the window – that the key is establishing a culture.

Sorry, I don’t buy that either.

If Tennessee, which had far better talent than its 4-8 record last year, goes 4-8 again, then Pruitt and his staff haven’t done a very good job.

And I don’t think the Vol Nation will care about a culture change if UT goes 3-9.

The record matters. It always does."

Jimmy's blog: How much time should Pruitt get to turn Vols around?
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Why even write about this right now? Why even think about this crap before his first season even starts??
 
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Geronimo said:
Looks like we are out with the Smokey gray and back in with black. Welcome to the 90’s fellas.

FWIW: I know some hate the black around the numbers, but I hope it’s on the game jerseys just like the practice ones. Those were the glory days for me and for this University.View attachment 161753
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I’m just not a big fan of the Halloween look.
 
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LaagerVol said:
Why even write about this right now? Why even think about this crap before his first season even starts??
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There have already been coaching search threads started in the FF based on Pruitt's failures in recruiting and lack of square footage of orange that he has worn since taking over.
 
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OGbabyaviVol said:
Pretty sure Percy Harvin was the original one who he had a dream about.
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I believe that article 183 of the updated Man Code state's that if one dude has a dream about another dude, the first dude is forbidden to mention it to anyone, ever. So on top of everything else, Meyer is a Man Code violator.
 
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