Amateur Hour Continues

[hog88]

[QUOTE="TennTom, post: 15597360, member: 2654"]It's obvious that I'm just missing critical thinking skills because I'm taking the word of the professionals. Sigh....Red hat logic.[/QUOTE]

The first step in recovery is recognizing you have a problem.

 

[tennvols77]

It is a choice, not a disease. If it were truly a disease that the person was born with and is truly not a choice, then these people would be drinking as children as their body and mind would be telling them to drink.

It is only after the personal choice to choose to take a drink, or many, time after time, that the "disease" takes hold. It is choice, and one that requires many many choices to drink that leads to being an alcoholic.

Personal choices and decisions with a substance that can train the brain and body to need and crave it doesn't lend to being sympathetic or empathetic to people who chose to drink in the first place, and if they are truly predisposed then taking one drink only reaffirms bad decisions.

 

[T-TownVol]

I am very close to this issue as a family member is an alcoholic. Alcoholism is a choice to drink too much that turns into a habit. There is nothing medical about the choice to drink until you have no control.
I base this on the fact that my family member can and does control it when he WANTS to. That is not a disease, it is a habit that he can 100% control.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I don't care what they classify it as. A person makes a decision to drink hence it's not a disease.

As an alcoholic who has been sober over 10 years I agree with this.

 

[TennTom]

The first step in recovery is recognizing you have a problem.

Well, if that's the case, it's obvious that you'll never overcome your blatant stupidity here. Seriously guy, this is like Football Forum level of dumb.

 

[hog88]

Well, if that's the case, it's obvious that you'll never overcome your blatant stupidity here. Seriously guy, this is like Football Forum level of dumb.

Yes you are.

 

[0nelilreb]

I’m curious because I am apparently dumb as well .. is smoking a desease or a choice that you should quit before you get a desease ?

 

[T-TownVol]

I’m curious because I am apparently dumb as well .. is smoking a desease or a choice that you should quit before you get a desease ?

Habit

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

The AMA recognized alcoholism as a disease in 1956. It's also categorized as such by WHO, NIH, American Psychiatric Association, and virtually any professional medical or psychiatric organization. Why would you state something so dumb?

The AMA also said smoking was good for you in 1956

 

[SLICKYINC]

 

[McDad]

As an alcoholic who has been sober over 10 years I agree with this.

Congratulations man.
It took my brother to the grave.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Congratulations man.
It took my brother to the grave.

I lost a grandfather and 1st cousin too it.

 

[Grand Vol]

Well, if that's the case, it's obvious that you'll never overcome your blatant stupidity here. Seriously guy, this is like Football Forum level of dumb.

He has a point. Alcoholism runs in my family as well. But I made the decision to stop drinking heavily some years ago as well. It was a decision rather than something I had to be medicated or counseled for.

Not everyone is the same. I still drink from time to time, but do so in moderation. Which is my choice.

 

[1972 Grad]

The AMA recognized alcoholism as a disease in 1956. It's also categorized as such by WHO, NIH, American Psychiatric Association, and virtually any professional medical or psychiatric organization. Why would you state something so dumb?

And they said homosexuals were mentally ill at that time.

 

[1972 Grad]

I lost a grandfather and 1st cousin too it.

Grandfather and an uncle here. House fire and a car wreck, both drunk at the time.

 

[hog88]

He has a point. Alcoholism runs in my family as well. But I made the decision to stop drinking heavily some years ago as well. It was a decision rather than something I had to be medicated or counseled for.

Not everyone is the same. I still drink from time to time, but do so in moderation. Which is my choice.

It's prevalent on my moms side of the family and when I was younger I had my moments. I just decided one day that I like nice things and following in my uncles and granddad's footsteps wouldn't get me to where I wanted to be.

I'll have a few on the weekends (except Sunday vacations excluded) and not before noon.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

It's prevalent on my moms side of the family and when I was younger I had my moments. I just decided one day that I like nice things and following in my uncles and granddad's footsteps wouldn't get me to where I wanted to be.

I'll have a few on the weekends (except Sunday vacations excluded) and not before noon.

That noon thing goes out the window if it's a noon kickoff.

 

[hog88]

That noon thing goes out the window if it's a noon kickoff.

Nope, made my grandmother a promise.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Nope, made my grandmother a promise.

Fair enough! My grandparents used to give their number to my friends when we would go to New Orleans in case someone needed to be fetched from the pokey.

 

[VolBraniac]

Just to be fair .. all those “ poorly educated “ people , no matter what they wear, eat, or look like still has the same vote you do ...

God love 'em. Where would we be without that mass of brainmush, we would have had Hilary and she's no fun at all.

 

[evillawyer]

And in today's installment of the amateur hour:

Trump tweets support for congressman not on the ballot

 

[Grand Vol]

Tom got awful quiet...

 

[Carl Pickens]

Well, which is it, young feller?

My goodness you liberal poons are worse than a room full of old ladies having hot flashes

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I don't care what they classify it as. A person makes a decision to drink hence it's not a disease.

Wow. You cannot be more wrong here hog.

 

[Squints]

Wow. You cannot be more wrong here hog.

When is alcoholism contracted and what medical procedures treat it?

Abstinence and “talking” about it are not medical treatments.