FBI Trump-hater Strozk to testify publicly

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Mick said:
Did he text that Trump was guilty?
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To answer your question, he texted that they would have Trump impeached. The timing of the text was before they had even interviewed the first person in connection to Trump.


So, is it your logic that he wasn't biased because he'd already judged Trump as guilty before starting the investigation? Or is it your logic that he wasn't biased because he proposed impeaching an innocent president?


There's no way to spin it. Before investigating, he had Trump impeached, but had Hillary in the oval office.
 
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Mick, why are you going to bat for this guy? Hes an unprofessional, partisan, disloyal, clown in a spot where he has to be indifferent to politics. Just remember that your outrage today will be an outrage to someone else in the future. The things that you hold dear will be questioned in the future. If you aren't willing to give support for all rights, you wont have the support when yours are on the chopping block.
 
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Mick said:
The evidence will stand on it's own merit when and if the time comes. I know you're not smart enough to not let your own biases lead you to the conclusion that the evidence will be tainted. That is the burden of proof which Mueller must shoulder. You can jump up yelling and screaming that its tainted but you have nothing to back it up.
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Take your Trump hate out of the equation and try to use common sense. You can continue to hype your belief in Trump's guilt while admitting that Strzok was obviously biased and in a position to follow though on that bias. He had no business being part of the investigation given his text messages on his FBI phone.

You really should be careful in your attempts to insult the intelligence of others when you allow your own zealotry to blind you to the obvious.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Okay, so you are that stupid.
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This is not a Trump and associates get out of jail free card. That is the spin you promote without anything to back it up your claim that the evidence will be tainted. You might not be able to look at things objectively but a "real" investigator can.

Enjoy your show.
 
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And just to reiterate something I've said in the past, given his relationship as Comey's mentor and the friendship between the two, Mueller should not be leading this investigation. Not claiming he's biased, not saying he's unbiased, but the simple fact they have a personal relationship creates a conflict of interest, imo. An investigation should make every attempt to be seen as impartial and unbiased. It should be "fair". Whether it's a Republican or a Democrat being investigated, Hillary or Trump, the key players doing the investigating should have no connections that may interfere with their duties.
 
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Mick said:
This is not a Trump and associates get out of jail free card. That is the spin you promote without anything to back it up your claim that the evidence will be tainted. You might not be able to look at things objectively but a "real" investigator can.

Enjoy your show.
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A "real" investigator doesn't leave a trail of texts on his work phone that so obviously show him to be biased. That's not a "real" investigator. Take Trump out of the equation and pretend for one moment this was just a common man being investigated. Would you still defend Strzok? If the answer is yes, then you are indeed an idiot.
 
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Mick said:
This is not a Trump and associates get out of jail free card. That is the spin you promote without anything to back it up your claim that the evidence will be tainted. You might not be able to look at things objectively but a "real" investigator can.

Enjoy your show.
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Yeah, I could explain why you're wrong, but it'd be a pure waste of time and you likely couldn't get it anyway.
 
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Weezer said:
A "real" investigator doesn't leave a trail of texts on his work phone that so obviously show him to be biased. That's not a "real" investigator. Take Trump out of the equation and pretend for one moment this was just a common man being investigated. Would you still defend Strzok? If the answer is yes, then you are indeed an idiot.
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Weezer, just a bit of friendly advice meant in good faith. Don't sink to his level of failure. As soon as he started sidestepping facts and questioning my intelligence instead, he admitted defeat.


You don't need to follow him into the gutter and smell just like him. Let's be the change we want to see.


Just a thought. Take or leave. :hi:
 
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Weezer said:
Take your Trump hate out of the equation and try to use common sense. You can continue to hype your belief in Trump's guilt while admitting that Strzok was obviously biased and in a position to follow though on that bias. He had no business being part of the investigation given his text messages on his FBI phone.

You really should be careful in your attempts to insult the intelligence of others when you allow your own zealotry to blind you to the obvious.
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Every FBI investigator is biased to one side or the other. No one would be completely neutral in their personal beliefs. If so, that should be a disqualifier.

As I stated earlier, I would guess at least 70% of upper level FBI employees had the same view of Trump and the election. That in no way means that they can not carry out their duties in an unbiased fashion. Many of us have jobs where we are required to ignore our biases.

Strozk was foolish to send those texts over a business phone, of that he is guilty.
 
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Weezer said:
I'm saying no one in a position of investigating politicians should make their opinions so public. He sent the texts on his FBI phone. Not very intelligent. And what he said went beyond a simple opinion. He implied he was ready to take action. This is no where near as simple as you would like it to be.
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To me it's several notches above that. That he felt comfortable making those comments on an FBI phone pretty much says that Strzok felt himself above the law - not at all atypical of petty tyrants when too much authority has gone to their heads. At this point, I'm not at all clear that Strzok even misrepresents the state of the FBI with respect to conceit and willingness to go beyond the law. If cynicism toward everyone else were not endemic within the FBI, I can't see either his phone comments or his smug attitude in the hearings.
 
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luthervol said:
Every FBI investigator is biased to one side or the other. No one would be completely neutral in their personal beliefs. If so, that should be a disqualifier.

As I stated earlier, I would guess at least 70% of upper level FBI employees had the same view of Trump and the election. That in no way means that they can not carry out their duties in an unbiased fashion. Many of us have jobs where we are required to ignore our biases.

Strozk was foolish to send those texts over a business phone, of that he is guilty.
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When you are broadcasting your opinions, you are not attempting to put them aside. Broadcasting them in such a way strongly suggests he was being led by his bias. In no way do his own words project him as a fair, unbiased investigator. Again, I'm clueless as to why the Left is going out of its way to defend him. Better to cut ties, condemn his remarks, and try to create a spin that his personal bias does not play into the investigation. The path they've chosen seems like horrible political strategy.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Strzok co-wrote the letter to Congress. Of course, Strzok and Comey both knew that the Republicans in Congress who supported Trump would leak the letter to Fox News. Comey got out in front of it but so what? They both knew it would be made public anyway and it would have!
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You don't understand, do you? Hiliary was tainted goods, and Comey was taking a lot of heat for his blessings - she made a mistake, but not enough to prosecute ... remember? To cover, Comey ran Hiliary through the rinse and spin cycle and pronounced her clean again just prior to the election. That wasn't a mud slinging event - it was an attempt to wash the Hiliary dirt off everyone involved. It didn't work obviously, so to Dims Comey is just another of the underhanded "reasons" that Trump stole the election.
 
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luthervol said:
Every FBI investigator is biased to one side or the other. No one would be completely neutral in their personal beliefs. If so, that should be a disqualifier.

As I stated earlier, I would guess at least 70% of upper level FBI employees had the same view of Trump and the election. That in no way means that they can not carry out their duties in an unbiased fashion. Many of us have jobs where we are required to ignore our biases.

Strozk was foolish to send those texts over a business phone, of that he is guilty.
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He literally said that they would stop Trump. He literally said before the investigation that Trump would be impeached and Hillary would be president (speaking to her being found innocent). He proveed that he was not ignoring how biased which does grievous harm to the faith that he was carrying out his duties in s professional manner.
 
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JMO, but having an affair with a work colleague and conducting it over their work phones should have been more than enough to get both **** canned. No severance, no anything, just a GTFO.
 
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Weezer said:
When you are broadcasting your opinions, you are not attempting to put them aside. Broadcasting them in such a way strongly suggests he was being led by his bias. In no way do his own words project him as a fair, unbiased investigator. Again, I'm clueless as to why the Left is going out of its way to defend him. Better to cut ties, condemn his remarks, and try to create a spin that his personal bias does not play into the investigation. The path they've chosen seems like horrible political strategy.
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They are shifting him because if he answers certain questions, it will do harm to the party.
 
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Weezer said:
When you are broadcasting your opinions, you are not attempting to put them aside. Broadcasting them in such a way strongly suggests he was being led by his bias. In no way do his own words project him as a fair, unbiased investigator. Again, I'm clueless as to why the Left is going out of its way to defend him. Better to cut ties, condemn his remarks, and try to create a spin that his personal bias does not play into the investigation. The path they've chosen seems like horrible political strategy.
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Broadcast? How many people were the texts sent to? I don't see the left defending the texts, they are defending the legitimacy of the investigation. It is obvious that the right is trying to use this as a way to discredit the investigation. (which is ridiculous)

He was wrong to send those texts on a business phone. He was removed from the investigation because of the optics. The IG report has already cleared him of any actual bias as it relates to his role. This red herring is not only dead but now completely dried out. Everyone but the most hard core trumpers will move on.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
Doesn't Strozk have a face that you'd like to rearrange? He has a look as if he just smelled a big pile of ****
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Imagine how that face would look across table while being interrogated and helpless. I have a feeling that his smug demeanor comes from being both a lifelong ass and his time as an FBI agent - the place that apparently doesn't answer to any higher authority, and where agents get to prey on the weak.
 
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luthervol said:
Broadcast? How many people were the texts sent to? I don't see the left defending the texts, they are defending the legitimacy of the investigation. It is obvious that the right is trying to use this as a way to discredit the investigation. (which is ridiculous)

He was wrong to send those texts on a business phone. He was removed from the investigation because of the optics. The IG report has already cleared him of any actual bias as it relates to his role. This red herring is not only dead but now completely dried out. Everyone but the most hard core trumpers will move on.
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The ig did not clear him. They lambasted him while saying that they couldn't prove conclusively that his bias affected his decisions. That's a huge difference, Luther.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
He literally said that they would stop Trump. He literally said before the investigation that Trump would be impeached and Hillary would be president (speaking to her being found innocent). He proveed that he was not ignoring how biased which does grievous harm to the faith that he was carrying out his duties in s professional manner.
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He explained the context of the text and only said what the vast majority of people in the know also believed. Everything points to the fact that the investigation was and is being carried out in a professional manner.
 
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luthervol said:
Broadcast? How many people were the texts sent to? I don't see the left defending the texts, they are defending the legitimacy of the investigation. It is obvious that the right is trying to use this as a way to discredit the investigation. (which is ridiculous)

He was wrong to send those texts on a business phone. He was removed from the investigation because of the optics. The IG report has already cleared him of any actual bias as it relates to his role. This red herring is not only dead but now completely dried out. Everyone but the most hard core trumpers will move on.
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You're terribly misguided if you believe that.
 
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luthervol said:
He explained the context of the text and only said what the vast majority of people in the know also believed. Everything points to the fact that the investigation was and is being carried out in a professional manner.
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I watched the testimony.

He claimed lack of memory and a refusal to answer questions. Everything does not indeed point to a proper investigation. There is an incredibly huge black cloud of suspicion over it for anyone willing to see it.
 
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Why is no one in the """MEDIA""" talking about the fact that Rep Gohmert disclosed that nearly everything on Hillary Clinton's email server was going to a FOREIGN ENTITY completely unrelated to muh Russia? This is huge news.

Strozk has completely different standards for what constitutes foreign meddling when you look at proven foreign interference per the ICIG with Clinton, versus the Trump situation where Mueller's has done nothing but indict a bunch of Russians, Paul Manafort for decades old money laundering charges that have NOTHING to do with the 2016 election, and General Michael Flynn for a process charge of lying to investigators (which will more than likely be overturned).

Who was this foreign entity that was intercepting the Clinton email server communications????

Was this foreign entity involved with the Clinton campaign or donors to the Clinton Foundation???

What does Huma Abedin have to do with this? What about Huma's devices? How about Anthony Weiner's laptop and the "LIFE INSURANCE" file? As we know, Huma's and Weiner's devices were receiving the Clinton server email communications.

Was Top Secret information sent on the Clinton server? How about Special Access Program information?

Why were Clinton and Obama using pseudonyms when communicating via the Clinton server?

Rather than focusing on Gohmert's calling out, and rightfully so, of Strozk's affair with Lisa Page, these questions above are what the MAINSTREAM (Mockingbird) MEDIA should be focusing on.
 
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