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[RiotVol]

The 2015 team was the best team we’ve had in a decade. I will give Butch that.

He recruited a playoff caliber roster and coached them to a 9 win season.

 

[Brillovol]

Yeah. But it has to suck to try your very hardest at the thing you have chosen to make your life's work and still come up short.

We all love Pruitt now, but let him lose a couple games and people will start comparing him unfavorably with toilets as well. It's not an easy profession. They did their best. It wasn't good enough. At the end of the day that's why I can't get on board with Pruitt until he gives me a reason to get on board -- I thought both Dooley and Butch had "it," that they would figure out what it took to right the program, and both of them flamed out. I still feel bad for them as people who wanted desperately for it to work out as I envisioned it.

Reminds me of a Christmas Vacation quote:

“He worked really hard, Grandpa.”



“So do washing machines.”

 

[Chief Vol 13]

Reminds me of a Christmas Vacation quote:

“He worked really hard, Grandpa.”



“So do washing machines.”

"The lights look good even if they aren't lit."

 

[BruinVol]

If we had had an AD with any cohones, Butch would have been gone after we totally underachieved in 2016 and all the assistants saw the writing on the wall and bolted.

I agree with you but I can't say I was smart enough myself to see that writing on the wall. In fact most of us here a year ago were still firmly behind Butch. Would have been hard to pull the trigger firing him but no doubt now in hind sights we know it should have happened

 

[Glitch]

This is probably one of the dumbest arguments I've ever witnessed.

Were you here for the MJ v Bron Bron argument?

 

[#Vol4Life1991]

Were you here for the MJ v Bron Bron argument?

Yea kinda crazy.... I'm glad it was settled bron bron> everyone else

 

[Glitch]

Yea kinda crazy.... I'm glad it was settled bron bron> everyone else

See, now you dun went in did it.

 

[#Vol4Life1991]

See, now you dun went in did it.

 

[SmokinBob]

You don't think Saban choosing to hire a guy says anything about said coach? Saban doesn't hire bums. Especially not two different times. The only bum he would hire would be for an intern that knocks down 35k a year. The Dez Bryant being the coach stuff is an opinion on your part. Ask anyone who knows anything about the league, and they'd tell you it's extremely difficult to coach diva wideouts like Bryant. Some of Dooley's receivers declined in production, not all. If you keep a job in the NFL for 5 years you have to be bringing at least a little something to the table.

From Alabama Athletics Staff Directory:

Dean Altobelli Football Analyst
Brendan Farrell Football Analyst
Garrett Cox Football Analyst
Gordon Steele Football Analyst
August Mangin Football Analyst
Butch Jones Football Analyst
Jacob Peetz Football Analyst
Louis Spanos Football Analyst

 

[BigOrangeVols]

I can’t believe they don’t teach basic Latin in school these days.

Apparently don't teach GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND either

 

[The Breakerboy]

If you could pick only two of these four to be in our class, who you got:

Chris Akporoghene
Melvin McBride
Zion Logue
Cormontae Hamilton

McBride and Hamilton

 

[drvenner]

Test

Fail.

 

[drvenner]

It's a little different in college. When you're at a cellar dweller like Mississippi State, you're just not on a level playing field with Bama, LSU, Auburn, and A&M. I don't think Mullen is some dyamite coach, but he is very good. They'll win 9 and 10 on the regular down there, which might not be acceptable for them.

So, which of our opponents' coaches do you not like? You love Kirby, Saban, Mullen, Muschamp. What do you think of Stoops and Mason?

 

[zhangliao04]

Were you here for the MJ v Bron Bron argument?

I was here. Just scrolled through. Including last year's. Like a gnat that kept flying into your eye over and over.

 

[drvenner]

You don't think Saban choosing to hire a guy says anything about said coach? Saban doesn't hire bums. Especially not two different times. The only bum he would hire would be for an intern that knocks down 35k a year. The Dez Bryant being the coach stuff is an opinion on your part. Ask anyone who knows anything about the league, and they'd tell you it's extremely difficult to coach diva wideouts like Bryant. Some of Dooley's receivers declined in production, not all. If you keep a job in the NFL for 5 years you have to be bringing at least a little something to the table.

There really is only one measuring stick as to how good a coach is. Winning games. Butch won more. You say that Butch was a better recruiter. For someone who is such a stargazer, I would think that you would realize that part of the job is incredibly important. Also, just because someone is a good assistant coach (according to Saban) does not mean that they will be a good head coach. Dooley provided plenty of evidence regarding that. What has he done since he left Saban's staff? Absolutely freaking nothing. La Tech, Tennessee and the Cowboys. He flat out sucked.

 

[drvenner]

This is one thing I think a lot of people miss. If he doesn't have Dobbs, his ass would have been grass after the 15 season.

Where would Dooley have been without Bray? Even worse, I believe, and he did not even recruit Bray.

 

[VolsDoc81TX]

I'm impossible to kill. I can even live in the nuclear wasteland that is Oak Ridge, TN. :rock:

Not if Orthoctodoc finds you....
Insert evil laugh here

 

[OGbabyaviVol]

So, which of our opponents' coaches do you not like? You love Kirby, Saban, Mullen, Muschamp. What do you think of Stoops and Mason?

Probably won’t end up Hall of Fame one day.

-ChiefVol

 

[rekinhavoc]

From Alabama Athletics Staff Directory:

Dean Altobelli Football Analyst
Brendan Farrell Football Analyst
Garrett Cox Football Analyst
Gordon Steele Football Analyst
August Mangin Football Analyst
Butch Jones Saban's Peon
Jacob Peetz Football Analyst
Louis Spanos Football Analyst

Fify

 

[Chief Vol 13]

So, which of our opponents' coaches do you not like? You love Kirby, Saban, Mullen, Muschamp. What do you think of Stoops and Mason?

Stoops is probably average at best, Mason isn't good at all. Muschamp has done a solid job at South Carolina so far.

 

[Chief Vol 13]

There really is only one measuring stick as to how good a coach is. Winning games. Butch won more. You say that Butch was a better recruiter. For someone who is such a stargazer, I would think that you would realize that part of the job is incredibly important. Also, just because someone is a good assistant coach (according to Saban) does not mean that they will be a good head coach. Dooley provided plenty of evidence regarding that. What has he done since he left Saban's staff? Absolutely freaking nothing. La Tech, Tennessee and the Cowboys. He flat out sucked.

How many times have I said that I think Dooley is better from purely an X's and O's standpoint?

 

[bignewt]

How many times have I said that I think Dooley is better from purely an X's and O's standpoint?

Too many?

 

[Chief Vol 13]

Where would Dooley have been without Bray? Even worse, I believe, and he did not even recruit Bray.

Yeah. As someone else pointed out, Jones won 1 SEC game without Dobbs. That's pretty sorry.

 

[Chief Vol 13]

Too many?

That's right bobo. Evidently the doctor hadn't picked that up.

 

[Coach Punk]

So far this thread has sucked.

Bring back XIVI