Recruiting Forum Off Topic Thread III

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MiramarVol said:
2 Timothy 3:16 - All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

It was handed down to man from God. God even wrote the commandments on stone for Moses himself.

Exodus 34:1 - And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.
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Still written by men. Let's keep it focused on recruits and quote scripture elsewhere
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
Has domain over all created and can perform miracles.

Needs 10% of your income though.

Seems legit.
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Yep. Church bills pay themselves. God drops money from heaven to pay the power bill, the mortgage of the property, maintenance, water, just takes care of itself.

Oh, and the pastor, he shouldn’t get paid I guess for dedicating 40+ hours a week to the work of the church. His family should have to fend for themselves while he serves the rest of us.

Oh, and career missionaries living all over the country, they don’t need money to eat. God will drop that from the sky, right Nick? Christians who can’t be foreign missionaries should never support those that can. People who give their lives in service to others should be poor and starve, right Hole?

But in reality, the church uses the small amount of money it takes in to do what, in your opinion? Load up the bank? Make pastors rich? Our pastor makes 24k a year. What a fat cat! Living large!
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Yep. Church bills pay themselves. God drops money from heaven to pay the power bill, the mortgage of the property, maintenance, water, just takes care of itself.

Oh, and the pastor, he shouldn’t get paid I guess for dedicating 40+ hours a week to the work of the church. His family should have to fend for themselves while he serves the rest of us.

Oh, and career missionaries living all over the country, they don’t need money to eat. God will drop that from the sky, right Nick? Christians who can’t be foreign missionaries should never support those that can. People who give their lives in service to others should be poor and starve, right Hole?

But in reality, the church uses the small amount of money it takes in to do what, in your opinion? Load up the bank? Make pastors rich? Our pastor makes 24k a year. What a fat cat! Living large!
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I never considered all the utility bills they had to pay in biblical times when tithing originated. My bad homie.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
I never considered all the utility bills they had to pay in biblical times when tithing originated. My bad homie.
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In your vast knowledge you must know that the priesthood of the Old Testament, where tithing originated, did not work regular jobs. Instead, they spent everyday serving the people. How did they provide for their families? The tithes from the people. That’s where it originated.

What was the collection used for in the New Testament? The missionaries who traveled, like Paul and others. In your great wisdom of course, you know that traveling was much more difficult back then and took much longer. They traveled for years and needed money to help them in the spread of the gospel.

Oh, and the poor, as you know of course, were taken care of by the people in the church, not the welfare system of the oppressing Roman government.

In other words, the same thing I mentioned above. The pastors fill the role of the priests, the church supports missionaries, the church supports the poor among them, and yes, the church pays the bills it takes to manage a property.

But the church is just in it for the money, right?
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Yep. Church bills pay themselves. God drops money from heaven to pay the power bill, the mortgage of the property, maintenance, water, just takes care of itself.

Oh, and the pastor, he shouldn’t get paid I guess for dedicating 40+ hours a week to the work of the church. His family should have to fend for themselves while he serves the rest of us.

Oh, and career missionaries living all over the country, they don’t need money to eat. God will drop that from the sky, right Nick? Christians who can’t be foreign missionaries should never support those that can. People who give their lives in service to others should be poor and starve, right Hole?

But in reality, the church uses the small amount of money it takes in to do what, in your opinion? Load up the bank? Make pastors rich? Our pastor makes 24k a year. What a fat cat! Living large!
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I volunteered to move here to one of the poorest places in the country to a small, poor congregation that cannot afford to give me more than about 80$ a month . I have always had to be bi-vocational to live, but me and my wife went from making 60g+ combined in our regular jobs to less than 30. I'm not in it for the money.
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I volunteered to move here to one of the poorest places in the country to a small, poor congregation that cannot afford to give me more than about 80$ a month . I have always had to be bi-vocational to live, but me and my wife went from making 60g+ combined in our regular jobs to less than 30. I'm not in it for the money.
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99% of pastors aren’t in it for the money because, for one reason, there isn’t much. But people like Hole base all their opinions off the charlatans on tv and act as tho every church is filled with men like Osteen and Duplantis when it just isn’t true.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
99% of pastors aren’t in it for the money because, for one reason, there isn’t much. But people like Hole base all their opinions off the charlatans on tv and ask as tho every church is filled with men like Osteen and Duplantis when it just isn’t true.
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But there are charlatans and that is all most people see, because that is what they want to see.
 
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bignewt said:
debatable. Easy to throw in an extra "thou" or "shall not" when copying over in a monastery in say 765 a.d.
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Nobody is going to deny that there are textual variants. There are, the vast majority are spelling errors. But when you have 25,000 copies and you compare them they are easy to find. So if someone did add an extra “thou shall” we would know it because it wouldn’t be reflected in the many other copies, especially the earlier ones. This is how textual criticism works. Scholars know where all the variants are and none of them affect any major doctrine at all.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
Nobody is going to deny that there are textual variants. There are, the vast majority are spelling errors. But when you have 25,000 copies and you compare them they are easy to find. So if someone did add an extra “thou shall” we would know it because it wouldn’t be reflected in the many other copies. This is how textual criticism works. Scholars know where all the variants are and none of them affect any major doctrine at all.
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The variants are why you have dozens of different churches all under the "christian" umbrella.
 
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Bassmaster_Vol said:
If you think the Bible has been edited then prove it. You can’t, and no one ever has. The Bible is the most attested book in all of ancient literature and it isn’t close.
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How about all the missing books left out of the Bible, that's editing. It's a proven fact that Constatine altered the Bible. Plus, it's widely known that Shakespeare rewrote some of the book of Psalms in the 17th century
 
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