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reVOLution33 said:
My job makes a ton of money off of its workers. Pay is decent but they certainly line their pockets handsomely. These players make more than minimum wage (including paid tuition, food, housing, styfend) and dont have to worry about bills or how they will make it to the next pay check because this week wasnt a good week for income ect. How do richard mize jr, james christian, or malik elion ect. make extra money? I have no problem with what my employer makes because of me, because if i did then i can just move along and work harder to get to be where they are but I'm content where i am. Everyone wants something for nothing now days. No one wants to work for it. If you are not happy with your situation then change it. Not one person is telling these kids to play. Not one. I wanted to play college ball so my school was paid for. Not so i could make money on top of all the benefits i would have been getting.
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This is about as silly as the veteran posters trying to compare football to the military. They are NOT even remotely comparable.
 
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Bauce said:
The NCAA just made over $1 Billion of the backs of these students. Spent a little over $101 million...

A lot of profit.

When you know your value, you should use it.

I don't know where you work, but if you were bringing your company over $100 million a year and they are only paying you minimum wage, you would have a Big Problem (well if you know your worth)

Your value isn't determined by how much your employer can profit from your labor. You're only worth more if someone else can't be hired to replace you at the same rate of pay. That's why wages have stayed relatively flat for the past 10 years due to higher than normal levels of unemployment. The labor market has tightened as of late and wages are starting to trend upward as a result.

Develop a unique skill set if you want to raise your market value. Basic economics that one learns
in college!
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reVOLution33 said:
My job makes a ton of money off of its workers. Pay is decent but they certainly line their pockets handsomely. These players make more than minimum wage (including paid tuition, food, housing, styfend) and dont have to worry about bills or how they will make it to the next pay check because this week wasnt a good week for income ect. How do richard mize jr, james christian, or malik elion ect. make extra money? I have no problem with what my employer makes because of me, because if i did then i can just move along and work harder to get to be where they are but I'm content where i am. Everyone wants something for nothing now days. No one wants to work for it. If you are not happy with your situation then change it. Not one person is telling these kids to play. Not one. I wanted to play college ball so my school was paid for. Not so i could make money on top of all the benefits i would have been getting.
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Your line about 'then I could just move along and work harder' proves the point. The kids can't move along to another school because the schools have all colluded to ensure the kids are not paid. If a company started colluding with all the other companies to ensure no one in your field made more than x, they'd be in serious trouble with the government. The same government allows the NCAA to do something they'd never allow an employer to do.
 
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Bauce said:
The NCAA just made over $1 Billion of the backs of these students. Spent a little over $101 million...

A lot of profit.

When you know your value, you should use it.

I don't know where you work, but if you were bringing your company over $100 million a year and they are only paying you minimum wage, you would have a Big Problem (well if you know your worth)

  1. Roughly one in three college graduates work in jobs that do not require a college degree. 34%
    Around 44% of college graduates ages 22 to 27 work in jobs that do not require a college degree
    Almost half (43%) of underemployed college graduates work in jobs paying more than $45,000 a year, despite those jobs not requiring a degree

Like I tell my kids, if you're not going to college to work on Wall Street, Lawyer, Doctor, Some Science, then you are wasting time and putting yourself in debt.
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Free education, free room and board, $3500 stipend per semester, connections for a job, an excellent stage to show your abilities, research and facilities to help you be the best you can be. Yeah i guess they aren't getting payed.
 
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Vol865 said:
Free education, free room and board, $3500 stipend per semester, connections for a job, an excellent stage to show your abilities, research and facilities to help you be the best you can be. Yeah i guess they aren't getting payed.
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I get your sentiment but let's be fair here. While none of this is costing the players monetarily, it's NOT "free" to them! The players work their asses off to EARN those amenities. None of these players are trust fund babies. They work very hard for everything they're getting on that campus! Some just happen to believe they deserve a little more.
 
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Better/more valuable employees make more money in most companies, just like better football players will. Pretty simple.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I get your sentiment but let's be fair here. While none of this is costing the players monetarily, it's NOT "free" to them! The players work their asses off to EARN those amenities. None of these players are trust fund babies. They work very hard for everything they're getting on that campus! Some just happen to believe they deserve a little more.
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I would slightly increase the stipend but that's about it. While I agree they work extremely hard I think the opportunities, resources, and education they can receive is being devalued way too much.
 
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Vol865 said:
I would slightly increase the stipend but that's about it. While I agree they work extremely hard I think the opportunities, resources, and education they can receive is being devalued way too much.
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On it's own I would agree. However when you put that up against the billions in revenue these players help generate, and the risks they take with their bodies and their lives by taking the field every Saturday from September through December, it's kind of hard to argue that they deserve better compensation.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
On it's own I would agree. However when you put that up against the billions in revenue these players help generate, and the risks they take with their bodies and their lives by taking the field every Saturday from September through December, it's kind of hard to argue that they deserve better compensation.
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i go back and forth on this. i fully believe that these football players receive an invaluable tool.

there is something to the whole "i played football at the Universtiy of Tennessee" thing that, along with a sheepskin from it, opens a lot of doors that might not otherwise be available, to even those that just have the sheepskin or just played football.

that said, for a select few players (football, bball, baseball, women's bball), there is an opportunity cost associated with playing. you can't realize any returns on yourself while playing, and there are legitimate cases to be made that says they should be able to.

the problem is title ix, and how do you differentiate between who really is experiencing that opportunity cost?

you say a guy should be able to sign autographs for money, and i'll agree with it. but there's some players, there's just no market for it. there's no market for the long snappers jersey in other words.:eek:lol:

anyway, it's a tricky subject. i think in some cases though, the market really would dictate. i mean, if you can make money by signing autographs or with jersey sales, i think you should probably be able to do that. if you can't, well, tough noogie. i'm sorry if the women's volleyball captain can't make a dime while the star QB is making $50/per signature..it is what it is.:thumbsup:

another suggestion i've heard kicked around is allowing that type of activity, but the money made be put in a trust, collectable upon graduating. of course, that means you have to graduate. not sure how'd that fly. but i like the idea of setting something up for the kid to have money available to them once they leave school, so no matter how their pro prospects turn out, they were able to walk away with something that THEY EARNED as a result of their time/effort playing whatever sport.
 
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Well. I have read the last two pages, thinking there might be an update on Jamir Johnson. Silly me.

:compute::question::blush::thud:

Edit: Maybe I was just on the wrong thread. :eek:hmy:
 
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What you people fail to realize is that the NCAA will not be paying the players. The school will. So if the school is paying the players we have to realize that only a handful of schools could afford the players. This would lead to more top heavy conferences and make college sports much less enjoyable. This would also lead to decline in how much a school could pay the student athletes and then they would be back to square one... Or further behind
 
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Rishvol said:
What you people fail to realize is that the NCAA will not be paying the players. The school will. So if the school is paying the players we have to realize that only a handful of schools could afford the players. This would lead to more top heavy conferences and make college sports much less enjoyable. This would also lead to decline in how much a school could pay the student athletes and then they would be back to square one... Or further behind
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Yeah I have mixed feelings about paying players. But I firmly believe that if they're not going to let them get paid, they should not be able to block them from profiting from their own likenesses.
 
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walkenvol said:
Bauce said:
The NCAA just made over $1 Billion of the backs of these students. Spent a little over $101 million...

A lot of profit.

When you know your value, you should use it.

I don't know where you work, but if you were bringing your company over $100 million a year and they are only paying you minimum wage, you would have a Big Problem (well if you know your worth)

Your value isn't determined by how much your employer can profit from your labor. You're only worth more if someone else can't be hired to replace you at the same rate of pay. That's why wages have stayed relatively flat for the past 10 years due to higher than normal levels of unemployment. The labor market has tightened as of late and wages are starting to trend upward as a result.

Develop a unique skill set if you want to raise your market value. Basic economics that one learns
in college!
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It's that what your liberal college taught you..hahaha

I once worked for a company. I created a program that raked them in $10s of millions. When I found out...I asked for 20% of that. They laughed and said we give you an extra $100 to your salary...man get the FOH

I left soon after that cause I knew MY value and what I could bring. If I knew my value earlier, I could have created that same program and sold it myself and got 100% of the profits

Being an employee, you will NEVER get paid your value...Tell your son this
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Biopsyman said:
The rule is you’re supposed to make your porn name from your middle name and your childhood street name -combo
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I heard your first pet's name and your street name. So mine would be - Apollo Miami, the other way - Joe Miami. Definitely, prefer the pet/street name combo
 
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Same. I've always heard first pet and childhood street name. So mine would be Blackey Greenwood. Yes, I had a dog named Blackey. I was 4 and didn't know any better.
 
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