Re: Jeff Brohm...Maybe Hyams was on to something

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sunnyvol79 said:
I would’ve been very happy with Brohm he was my second choice after Chris Peterson. Pruitt will implode at UT on and off the field. He will not handle the pressure as a first year head coach at the pressure cooker in Knoxville. At least Brohm has HC experience. I would’ve gone with Mike Bobo over Pruitt disappointed we didn’t give him serious consideration.
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As I grew up in AL I tend to give credit to the good folks that live there more so than most of this board. However, you give more credence to comments about "the whole state" than any pseudo UT Fan on this board. Keep your Bama trolling to yourself.
 
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Nationdom said:
I was and still am a big fan of Leach. The thing is Leach would do at Tennessee what Mark did at UGA, win 10 games every year and nothing else. That’s not good enough.
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He’s 38-38 at Washington State, hasn’t won 10 games in a single season in his 6 years there. Furthermore, in 16 seasons as a collegiate head coach he’s gotten to double digit wins exactly once, in 2008, 10 years ago, coaching in the Big 12 at Texas Tech. .......but he would’ve won 10 games every year at Tennessee, in the SEC? Oh sure, who would even doubt you?
 
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KBVol said:
He’s 38-38 at Washington State, hasn’t won 10 games in a single season in his 6 years there. Furthermore, in 16 seasons as a collegiate head coach he’s gotten to double digit wins exactly once, in 2008, 10 years ago, coaching in the Big 12 at Texas Tech. .......but he would’ve won 10 games every year at Tennessee, in the SEC? Oh sure, who would even doubt you?
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Washington state and Texas Tech.
 
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CladInOrange said:
I wouldn't mind Brohm, actually maybe prefer over Pruitt even. At the end of the day I am glad we got someone with southern recruiting ties.
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Brohm would have been a great choice, but there are 5 million reasons why Tennessee didn't offered him. Then again, they considered Schiano, offered insane money to Gundy, and then went after Doeren.


Next time, I hope they don't worry about buyouts. I would have taken a guy like Brohm over those other three put together.
 
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Jaws said:
Agree, would have been a great hire. So what happened, the article doesn’t say. Did Brohm just decide to stay at Purdue or was Fulmer behind the scenes blocking this one too?

I know many are happy with Pruitt, but when you’re inches away from a Brohm or a Leach, yet you end up with a Coordinator, it doesn’t add up.
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Hyams was the only one to mention anything about Brohm. But when he heard about the 5 million dollar buyout, he backed off quick, because he knew those in charge would never approve. When you are talking about some of the people up here making decisions, getting things to add up requires some really obscure seldom used math rules. Otherwise known as dealing with dip5h1ts.
 
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Glocker_Alum_2005 said:
Depends on who you ask. I think 80-90 percent of Vol fans would take that, give the past 10 years. In fact there will be multitudes bemoaning the fact that Phil and Davenport nixed the Leach hire after we start 2-6 next season. Book it!
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you cant get to 9-3 starting out 2- 6
 
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Jaws said:
The Pruitt implosion will begin when his temper starts flaring with the media and fans, after the losses pile up. Too many of the Saban disciples try and incorporate his terse, curt, blunt style with the media, but they’re all missing the championship gravitas that enables that style. So they end up just looking like hot-headed jerks. Muschamp at Florida is a perfect example. McElwain was a Saban desciple and often times came across as a real jerk, overly secretive and always wanting an “us against the world” scenario, even with his own fans and administration. Kirby Smart has a lot of this. His first year at UGA had some really tense and questionable moments with the media, where it looked like Kirby was cracking. The great season last year earned him a pass for now. Jimbo Fisher May be the most Saban-like. He won a championship but look how that relationship ended; messy, entangled and very bitter.

My point is, this style wears out quickly, especially if you aren’t winning at a very high level. I have no idea how Pruitt will fare, he may be at UT a decade-plus and win multiple SEC titles. But I can certainly see him flaming out in 3 years with a 17-19 record and all sorts of blow-ups at the media.
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You really need to worry about your **** and let us worry about ours. I don't things are smelling like anything but monkey butt in Gainesville right now.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
I'm excited about Coach Pruitt, but I'll hold off on proclaiming that we're on an upward trajectory until I see the product on the field. OTOH, there's nowhere to go but up.
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Recruiting buzz is starting to pick again, the systems being installed look to be much more effective, the coaches that are developing the players are vastly superior, the S&C program is getting a huge overhaul, the athletic department is now run by someone who understands winning football, and we are going back to black cleats. That is upward trajectory.
 
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Nationdom said:
Washington state and Texas Tech.
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Where it’s easier to win 10 games given their conferences and competition. Leach could only do it one time in 16 seasons at those places and there’s little to no reason to think he wouldve done it here.
 
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KBVol said:
Where it’s easier to win 10 games given their conferences and competition. Leach could only do it one time in 16 seasons at those places and there’s little to no reason to think he wouldve done it here.
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Leach struggled with conference play in the Big-12 and the Pac-12, there's no reason to believe that he wouldn't struggle even more in the SEC given the level of competition.

Fun to watch at times, but I'd rather he coach someone else's team that I watch while I wait for the Vols to play.
 
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KBVol said:
Where it’s easier to win 10 games given their conferences and competition. Leach could only do it one time in 16 seasons at those places and there’s little to no reason to think he wouldve done it here.
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With Ga, Fla, Bama, plus another west team and resurgent SC on our schedule every single year plus the opener usually against a top 15 team there is little to no reason to believe any coach not named Nick Saban can do it at Tn and I'm not sure he could. The offseason discussion that we are not courageous enough to have concerns whether fans will "support" a program where 7-9 wins is a goal. Go ahead and go ad hominem, it's what most here do best any way.
 
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KBVol said:
Where it’s easier to win 10 games given their conferences and competition. Leach could only do it one time in 16 seasons at those places and there’s little to no reason to think he wouldve done it here.
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You heard it before, many times deservedly, but here it is again. You don’t know football. (I’m not saying that in a angry or defensive tone, quite humble actually)
 
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Nationdom said:
You heard it before, many times deservedly, but here it is again. You don’t know football. (I’m not saying that in a angry or defensive tone, quite humble actually)
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I give you facts of Leach’s 16 year career that directly refute that “he’d win 10 games a year at Tennessee”........vs your childish “we’re Tennessee”, “we’ll win the National Title and Pruitt owns Saban” and “we’ll have 110,000 fans Neyland” type BS....and I don’t know football? You’re a freaking riot kid.

You’re beyond D4H in being juvenile and completely nonsensical. You’ve never posted anything whatsoever that shows you have any understanding about anything remotely football related and you’ve got the audacity to tell other people THEY don’t know football? Just sthu Andy, you’ve embarrassed yourself enough on VN the last couple of weeks to last a couple of lifetimes.....sad thing is, you just keep doing it over and over again and you evidently have no idea how you’re perceived on here. It ain’t good.
 
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KBVol said:
I give you facts of Leach’s 16 year career that directly refute that “he’d win 10 games a year at Tennessee”........vs your childish “we’re Tennessee”, “we’ll win the National Title and Pruitt owns Saban” and “we’ll have 110,000 fans Neyland” type BS....and I don’t know football? You’re a freaking riot kid.

You’re beyond D4H in being juvenile and completely nonsensical. You’ve never posted anything whatsoever that shows you have any understanding about anything remotely football related and you’ve got the audacity to tell other people THEY don’t know football? Just sthu Andy, you’ve embarrassed yourself enough on VN the last couple of weeks to last a couple of lifetimes.....sad thing is, you just keep doing it over and over again and you evidently have no idea how you’re perceived on here. It ain’t good.
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I never said we’d win the Natty or that Pruitt owns Saban. My name is not Andy. I’m not concerned with how I am precieved.
 
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Nationdom said:
You heard it before, many times deservedly, but here it is again. You don’t know football. (I’m not saying that in a angry or defensive tone, quite humble actually)
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I feel kind toward you, in a way that you are misunderstood, took me awhile to get you, unlike a few on here (unnamed), but be careful throwing out to others that they don’t know football, you haven’t exactly proven you do either.
 
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Orangeredblooded said:
I feel kind toward you, in a way that you are misunderstood, took me awhile to get you, unlike a few on here (unnamed), but be careful throwing out to others that they don’t know football, you haven’t exactly proven you do either.
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You're absolutely right. But, it would be fun to see some of these arguments, without google.
 
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I wouldn’t have minded landing Brohm. I like CJP so far, hopefully he just wins.
 
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orange parmejohn said:
Recruiting buzz is starting to pick again, the systems being installed look to be much more effective, the coaches that are developing the players are vastly superior, the S&C program is getting a huge overhaul, the athletic department is now run by someone who understands winning football, and we are going back to black cleats. That is upward trajectory.
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Talk, plans, and weight machines aren’t much to be excited about. Guess it’s indicative of Tennessee football the last decade. Decade of Irrelevance.
 
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