TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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Mick said:
If it turns out she was paid by Fusion GPS I will change my tune.
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Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS met with Natalia Veselnitskaya (the Russian lawyer at the Trump Jr. meeting) before and after the Trump Jr. meeting took place.

Glenn Simpson was the author of the memo used by Veselnitskaya to pitch her meeting with Trump Jr.

I’m sure those are just more coincidences.
 
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Vol0725 said:
Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS met with Natalia Veselnitskaya (the Russian lawyer at the Trump Jr. meeting) before and after the Trump Jr. meeting took place.

Glenn Simpson was the author of the memo used by Veselnitskaya to pitch her meeting with Trump Jr.

I’m sure those are just more coincidences.
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First I have heard of anything like that. Do you care to cite a source?

I didn't know Veselntiskaya had contact with Jr. before the meeting.
 
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Mick said:
First I have heard of anything like that. Do you care to cite a source?

I didn't know Veselntiskaya had contact with Jr. before the meeting.
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Here's the original article:

Trump, Clinton camps both offered slice of dossier firm's work: sources | Reuters

Now, it does use the ambiguous "sources" as many places do, but there is a lot of circumstantial evidence surrounding the matter to give it the possibility of truth.

Let's face it, Reuters isn't exactly your normal "news" website run out of Mom's basement with an agenda.
 
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Mick said:
lol. So Simpson provide the lawyer with the "dirt on Hillary" even though there was no dirt provided in the meeting. That is where your conspiracy falls apart. Someone is lying.
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“My” conspiracy? That’s rich ... :eek:lol:
 
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Buried within a newly declassified congressional report on Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. elections is a shocking revelation: former Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper not only leaked information about the infamous Steele dossier and high-level government briefings about it to CNN, he also may have lied to Congress about the matter.

In one of the findings within the 253-page report, the House intelligence committee wrote that Clapper leaked details of a dossier briefing given to then-President-elect Donald Trump to CNN’s Jake Tapper, lied to Congress about the leak, and was rewarded with a CNN contract a few months later.

“Clapper flatly denied ‘discussing[ing] the dossier [compiled by Steele] or any other intelligence related to Russia hacking of the 2016 election with journalists,'” the committee found.

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The former DNI later changed his story after he was confronted specifically about his communications with Jake Tapper of CNN.

“Clapper subsequently acknowledged discussing the ‘dossier with CNN journalist Jake Tapper,’ and admitted that he might have spoken with other journalists about the same topic,” the report continued. “Clapper’s discussion with Tapper took place in early January 2017, around the time IC leaders briefed President Obama and President-elect Trump, on ‘the Christopher Steele information,’ a two-page summary of which was ‘enclosed in’ the highly-classified version of the ICA,” or intelligence community assessment.

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The revelation that Clapper was responsible for leaking details of both the dossier and briefings to two presidents on the matter is significant, because former Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) director James Comey wrote in one of four memos that he leaked that the briefing of Trump on salacious and unverified allegations from the dossier was necessary because “CNN had them and were looking for a news hook.”

The congressional report on Russian interference noted that it was this very briefing of Trump that multiple media organizations used as an excuse to publish the unverified dossier.

“The Committee assesses that leaks to CNN about the dossier were especially significant, since CNN’s report ‘ that a two-page synopsis of the report was given to President Obama and Trump’ was the proximate cause of BuzzFeed News’ decision to publish the dossier for the first time just a few hours later,” the report stated. “Until that point, the dossier had been ‘circulating among elected official, intelligence agents, and journalists,’ but remained unpublished. As the accompanying article explained, ‘[n]ow BuzzFeed News is publishing the full document so that Americans can make up their own minds about allegations about the president-elect that have circulated at the highest levels of government.”

Report: James Clapper Leaked Dossier Briefing To CNN, Lied About It
 
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1972 Grad said:
My tune will change when some proof shows up that Trump is guilty of an actual crime while either running for, or since he has become President. I have yet to see anything that would change my mind.
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You’re suppose to take their word he broke the law. Evidence is overrated.
 
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1972 Grad said:
My tune will change when some proof shows up that Trump is guilty of an actual crime while either running for, or since he has become President. I have yet to see anything that would change my mind.
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Trump did not do anything criminal, nor intentionally borderline criminal. It’s all a bunch of BS. Trump’s not even a target of any investigation.

This is a damn old ass broken record, but for something to be a crime, there has to be a statute that you claim is being violated, there is not a statute that refers to criminal collusion. There is no crime of collusion anyway, at least no one can provide any evidence after nearly 2 years.
 
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Mick said:
lol. So Simpson provide the lawyer with the "dirt on Hillary" even though there was no dirt provided in the meeting. That is where your conspiracy falls apart. Someone is lying.
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WTF are you talking about? Dirt on Hillary? He gave her info on the Magnitsky Act concerning sanctions on Russian adoption...kinda ironic he’s involved when they are putting together oppo research about Trump Russia phony bologna dossier? Ehh...nothing to see here. No reason to even ask questions. My bad.
 
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Vol0725 said:
Trump did not do anything criminal, nor intentionally borderline criminal. It’s all a bunch of BS. Trump’s not even a target of any investigation.

This is a damn old ass broken record, but for something to be a crime, there has to be a statute that you claim is being violated, there is not a statute that refers to criminal collusion. There is no crime of collusion anyway, at least no one can provide any evidence after nearly 2 years.
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Why then, are you so worried?
 
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Septic said:
Why then, are you so worried?
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I'm not worried, but I am concerned the forces against him will stop at nothing to get him out of office.

There comes a point in time where even you can admit the narrative has changed too often to be anything but an attempt to usurp the duly elected President of the United States.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm not worried, but I am concerned the forces against him will stop at nothing to get him out of office.

There comes a point in time where even you can admit the narrative has changed too often to be anything but an attempt to usurp the duly elected President of the United States.
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The narrative has not changed just because you say it has changed. Trump/Russian agents colluded is still the narrative being investigated.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm not worried, but I am concerned the forces against him will stop at nothing to get him out of office.

There comes a point in time where even you can admit the narrative has changed too often to be anything but an attempt to usurp the duly elected President of the United States.
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If he hasn't committed a crime there is nothing to worry about, it's all just noise from the machine.

At the end of the day, there is due process and law and opinions can't usurp that.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm not worried, but I am concerned the forces against him will stop at nothing to get him out of office.

There comes a point in time where even you can admit the narrative has changed too often to be anything but an attempt to usurp the duly elected President of the United States.
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I hope the far left understands the standard, or lack there of, for how to act when you lose an election
 
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Septic said:
If he hasn't committed a crime there is nothing to worry about, it's all just noise from the machine.

At the end of the day, there is due process and law and opinions can't usurp that.
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BS. Don’t let the lack of committing a crime get in the way of a good ole witch hunt. The establishment will never drop this and the left is more than happy to do the pot stirring and keep the narrative alive for them.
 
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Septic said:
If he hasn't committed a crime there is nothing to worry about, it's all just noise from the machine.

At the end of the day, there is due process and law and opinions can't usurp that.
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ehh, doubt that. Trump will be followed by this like all the Killary stuff does Hillary. opinion is about all that matters now in politics. none of them are going to jail, neither side wants a president in jail, or anyone high up. sets a dangerous precedent, this is being milked for political points in the midterms.
 
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Septic said:
If he hasn't committed a crime there is nothing to worry about, it's all just noise from the machine.

At the end of the day, there is due process and law and opinions can't usurp that.
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Have you been asleep the last 20+ years?
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
BS. Don’t let the lack of committing a crime get in the way of a good ole witch hunt. The establishment will never drop this and the left is more than happy to do the pot stirring and keep the narrative alive for them.
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Kenneth Starr anyone?

The right ate that up.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
BS. Don’t let the lack of committing a crime get in the way of a good ole witch hunt. The establishment will never drop this and the left is more than happy to do the pot stirring and keep the narrative alive for them.
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Benghazi called and gives two thumbs up.

No one is going to jail or tossed out of office via impeachment without hard evidence of crimes.

The butthurt over the lingering cloud is just that, partisan butthurt. If the shoe were on the other foot, I dare say you'd be espousing different opinions. My only point is you guys have become what you profess to detest, snowflakes. The investigations aren't going anywhere, it's time to put the notions of shutting it down aside - accept it and move on. Especially if you're inclined to believe he's innocent.
 
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