The Official 2nd Amendment Appreciation Thread

You and holdem are brutal. So I like Colt
First of all your rifles are of higher quality than my S&W. I wasnt making fun of Colt, just pointing out the fact that unless GV took a job at their factory he wasn't building you a rifle. Second, I offered the rifle furniture because I know you are fond of the uncomfortable garbage that comes on them, while I am not. Third, thank you for your service.
 
First of all your rifles are of higher quality than my S&W. I wasnt making fun of Colt, just pointing out the fact that unless GV took a job at their factory he wasn't building you a rifle. Second, I offered the rifle furniture because I know you are fond of the uncomfortable garbage that comes on them, while I am not. Third, thank you for your service.

It's all good, brother. Relax. GV and I have a fond relationship built on mutual teasing. You jumped in, and we just assumed you were family. No worries.

So, just to bring you up to date...I now own two Colt AR6721's. The first is well-equipped..thanks to GV...as a solid patrol rifle. The 2nd is a stock flat-top (that's how they send them now) which I bought just to have a backup.

HBAR. 1/9. You either love it, or you hate it. I happen to love it.

So I served. I'm one of millions. I retired in one piece, which many did not. Not to mention the millions of firefighters / EMT's / local / state / and federal folks who did what I did, and more. It was an honor to serve.

GV is solid folk. But I'd never admit it in public.

:)
 
It's all good, brother. Relax. GV and I have a fond relationship built on mutual teasing. You jumped in, and we just assumed you were family. No worries.

So, just to bring you up to date...I now own two Colt AR6721's. The first is well-equipped..thanks to GV...as a solid patrol rifle. The 2nd is a stock flat-top (that's how they send them now) which I bought just to have a backup.

HBAR. 1/9. You either love it, or you hate it. I happen to love it.

So I served. I'm one of millions. I retired in one piece, which many did not. Not to mention the millions of firefighters / EMT's / local / state / and federal folks who did what I did, and more. It was an honor to serve.

GV is solid folk. But I'd never admit it in public.

:)
I'm a very sarcastic dude, and if my joking with you came across the wrong way I am sorry about that. I enjoy the back and forth in this thread. I was serious about your service though. I realize there are millions, and I thank every one I come across.
 
When I bought my Colt 6920 at the end of 2016 I’ll admit the reason I bought it is it says “Colt” on it.

Some will scoff I know but I’ve always considered it the benchmark AR. And honestly I didn’t know how much longer they’d be around so I bought it. No real plans to modify it. It fits me reasonably well, except for the midget collapsible butt stock. But I’ve adapted.

I know I said benchmark but I’ll admit that doesn’t mean best. It’s just the most common one in comparisons. It and the 1911 are pieces of history. They are the 20th century versions of the Winchester 1873 to me anyway.

And did I mention it says Colt. 😬
 
When I bought my Colt 6920 at the end of 2016 I’ll admit the reason I bought it is it says “Colt” on it.

Some will scoff I know but I’ve always considered it the benchmark AR. And honestly I didn’t know how much longer they’d be around so I bought it. No real plans to modify it. It fits me reasonably well, except for the midget collapsible butt stock. But I’ve adapted.

I know I said benchmark but I’ll admit that doesn’t mean best. It’s just the most common one in comparisons. It and the 1911 are pieces of history. They are the 20th century versions of the Winchester 1873 to me anyway.

And did I mention it says Colt. 😬
Holy crap. Colt makes fine rifles. GV will tell you as much I'm sure. The joking with GW was more about his hesitation to customize his rifles.
 
Holy crap. Colt makes fine rifles. GV will tell you as much I'm sure. The joking with GW was more about his hesitation to customize his rifles.

Yeah, that's a story in itself. I bought my first one in...2009 I think. And it stayed just like I bought it until (GV may recall better than I do) about a year ago? After trying out a cheap RDS, I put an Aimpoint PRO on it, and right around then is when I started talking on here with GV, and from that point forward it was "Katie, bar the door."...ha.

I could have done a lot more than I did, but I wanted to preserve the "Colt look", so I ended up doing just what I needed to do to turn it into a good patrol / HD rifle. I think I'm there. I also stocked up on Magpul mags and ammo.

I will say that when it comes to a Colt, probably the best mod you can make to improve it is replace the trigger. When I put that SSA in mine, it became a different gun.

Ammo is another story to tell. Later.

2nd rifle is just in case we get a liberal POTUS / SCOTUS / Congress. But deep down, I know that sooner or later GV will wear me down, and my savings account will bottom out again...

GV and I banter about in this thread, and he seems to take some odd delight in yanking my chain, but he's a good soul, and he has sent me some stuff offline that has really helped me set up my gun.

I'm not, and never was, offended or insulted by anything said here. Personally, I enjoy a good snowball fight from time to time. When GV started with that "Hello, Kitty" stuff, I could see where we were headed.

So, fire away, and kiss my butt...it's a Colt.
 
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...and the 1911 are pieces of history.

Amen, brother. As I suspect you are, I'm a ".45 guy", and the Holy Grail of the .45 ACP is the Colt 1911.

I want one. Bad. But I just can't (yet) force myself to pony up the money for a gun that really isn't IWB friendly. I have this rule about guns I buy: If I can't carry it, why buy it?

So I settled for a RIA compact 1911, and a Glock 30S. And then, saints be praised, last December I tripped over a barely used Springfield Armory 1911 Range Officer, with all of the original accessories and case, and a few add-ons...for $500. Obviously, I broke my rule and bought it. So it sits in the top drawer of my dresser, cleaned, oiled and full of Federal HST's...waiting on some unlucky Zombie to stumble through my door.

Maybe I'll trade it for a used Colt 1911. Probably not. I have serious issues parting with any gun I've ever owned, and that Springfield is by far the most accurate .45 I've ever shot, so...

Just something about a .45 that says "No, I'm not kidding."...ha ha ha

:hi:
 
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I'm a very sarcastic dude, and if my joking with you came across the wrong way I am sorry about that. I enjoy the back and forth in this thread. I was serious about your service though. I realize there are millions, and I thank every one I come across.

Appreciate it.

Spring Hill. Near Nashville? If so...waaay back in 1977/8, I was a cadet at Castle Heights. We played Spring Hill (I think) in a bowl game. Lions Bowl? All I can remember is that we went down 13-0 and ended up winning 28-13; it was bone-chilling cold; and you guys had a running back that left me sore for a week from tackling him (I was a safety...all 165 lbs of me). Seriously, that dude ran like a mad gorilla. Alexander? Seems right.

Go Vols.
 
I own ARs...and none of them say Colt. And chances are, I'll never buy one that says Colt on it.

"OMG, OMG, OMG! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, GV?!?!?!"

Two reasons. First being the fact I only buy a midlength gas system unless I absolutely HAVE to get a carbine length (my pistol upper, for example). While the midlength isn't "industry standard" it's reliable and mature enough to buy good quality parts for or come in complete uppers from reputable manufacturers.

To me, it's always come down to recoil minimization. While the recoil from an AR is extremely tame to begin with, I took it to extremes and put the midlength gas system, an H2 buffer, a better stock, more comfortable grip and a nice brake on the front. I can practically put two rounds right on top of each other in less than a second with my rig.

Colt doesn't and likely won't ever produce a midlength. Which brings me to the second reason I won't buy Colt.

Extreme lack of innovation. They sell on the name and the fact they build (most) rifles to the strict TDP and don't you DARE change it! GW's 6721 being an obvious outlier, but anyway. They come in the Mom jeans and Hello Kitty shirt variety and NOTHING else. Yeah, they tried that Rogers Stock nonsense for a few years and somewhat recently got on the bandwagon of adding Magpul furniture, but let's face it. A Colt comes out of the box with what another manufacturer called "place holding items." Standard grip? Insert grip of choice here. Standard round handguards? Insert choice here. Standard stock? Etc, etc, etc. Zero innovation to improve their products, but by golly, you've got a COLT!

Yeah, it's the standard. But not my standard. Sometimes I would prefer to buy something assembled up front with the items I want rather than have to pay Colt's price and drop yet more money into it getting what I want. I'm not a brand name snob, so I'll never begrudge anyone for owning a Colt. But it isn't the end all, be all of the AR world. They have been outperformed by BCM, Daniel Defense, Palmetto State Premium, LMT, Larue, Knights, Noveske, Springfield, FNH, etc in combining quality with "what the buyer wants" in the past decade. Colt is slowly, much too slowly, trying to change that paradigm, but I feel they will likely end up as a footnote in history along with Remington and Winchester since their lack of innovation and creativity doesn't permit them to change to an evolving market. Colt is like the grumpy grandpa that screams at the kids to get off his lawn and refuses to upgrade his 56K internet because "it does what I need it to do."
 
I own ARs...and none of them say Colt. And chances are, I'll never buy one that says Colt on it.

"OMG, OMG, OMG! WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY, GV?!?!?!"

Two reasons. First being the fact I only buy a midlength gas system unless I absolutely HAVE to get a carbine length (my pistol upper, for example). While the midlength isn't "industry standard" it's reliable and mature enough to buy good quality parts for or come in complete uppers from reputable manufacturers.

To me, it's always come down to recoil minimization. While the recoil from an AR is extremely tame to begin with, I took it to extremes and put the midlength gas system, an H2 buffer, a better stock, more comfortable grip and a nice brake on the front. I can practically put two rounds right on top of each other in less than a second with my rig.

Colt doesn't and likely won't ever produce a midlength. Which brings me to the second reason I won't buy Colt.

Extreme lack of innovation. They sell on the name and the fact they build (most) rifles to the strict TDP and don't you DARE change it! GW's 6721 being an obvious outlier, but anyway. They come in the Mom jeans and Hello Kitty shirt variety and NOTHING else. Yeah, they tried that Rogers Stock nonsense for a few years and somewhat recently got on the bandwagon of adding Magpul furniture, but let's face it. A Colt comes out of the box with what another manufacturer called "place holding items." Standard grip? Insert grip of choice here. Standard round handguards? Insert choice here. Standard stock? Etc, etc, etc. Zero innovation to improve their products, but by golly, you've got a COLT!

Yeah, it's the standard. But not my standard. Sometimes I would prefer to buy something assembled up front with the items I want rather than have to pay Colt's price and drop yet more money into it getting what I want. I'm not a brand name snob, so I'll never begrudge anyone for owning a Colt. But it isn't the end all, be all of the AR world. They have been outperformed by BCM, Daniel Defense, Palmetto State Premium, LMT, Larue, Knights, Noveske, Springfield, FNH, etc in combining quality with "what the buyer wants" in the past decade. Colt is slowly, much too slowly, trying to change that paradigm, but I feel they will likely end up as a footnote in history along with Remington and Winchester since their lack of innovation and creativity doesn't permit them to change to an evolving market. Colt is like the grumpy grandpa that screams at the kids to get off his lawn and refuses to upgrade his 56K internet because "it does what I need it to do."

Good Morning, Grumpy...
 
Amen, brother. As I suspect you are, I'm a ".45 guy", and the Holy Grail of the .45 ACP is the Colt 1911.

I want one. Bad. But I just can't (yet) force myself to pony up the money for a gun that really isn't IWB friendly. I have this rule about guns I buy: If I can't carry it, why buy it?

So I settled for a RIA compact 1911, and a Glock 30S. And then, saints be praised, last December I tripped over a barely used Springfield Armory 1911 Range Officer, with all of the original accessories and case, and a few add-ons...for $500. Obviously, I broke my rule and bought it. So it sits in the top drawer of my dresser, cleaned, oiled and full of Federal HST's...waiting on some unlucky Zombie to stumble through my door.

Maybe I'll trade it for a used Colt 1911. Probably not. I have serious issues parting with any gun I've ever owned, and that Springfield is by far the most accurate .45 I've ever shot, so...

Just something about a .45 that says "No, I'm not kidding."...ha ha ha

:hi:

Check Armslist for reasonable used Colts.

But in reality, the Holy Grail of the 1911 world is and will always be Wilson Combat. Though a debate will ensue from some about Nighthawk, Les Bauer, Ed Brown or Springfield Custom shop. And by "Holy Grail" I mean off the shelf purchase and not specifically something you send in to be modified by the countless gunsmiths that specialize in 1911 mods. That list could go on for days.
 
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Love to stay here and explore various methods for mutual insult this morning, but I gotta head out. Errands to run. I'll stop in later this afternoon / evening to see how many more innocent gun owners you've managed to offend.

Want me to pick up some crickets for you to pull the legs off of?

Have a good day, GV. Later...
 
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Love to stay here and explore various methods for mutual insult this morning, but I gotta head out. Errands to run. I'll stop in later this afternoon / evening to see how many more innocent gun owners you've managed to offend.

Want me to pick up some crickets for you to pull the legs off of?

Have a good day, GV. Later...

Trust me, the only insulting thing in this thread recently is a 1/9 barrel.
 
Holy crap. Colt makes fine rifles. GV will tell you as much I'm sure. The joking with GW was more about his hesitation to customize his rifles.

Holdem I wasn’t actually referring to you any in my post. It was more just my thoughts along the lines of GWs “it’s a Colt”.
 
Amen, brother. As I suspect you are, I'm a ".45 guy", and the Holy Grail of the .45 ACP is the Colt 1911.

I want one. Bad. But I just can't (yet) force myself to pony up the money for a gun that really isn't IWB friendly. I have this rule about guns I buy: If I can't carry it, why buy it?

So I settled for a RIA compact 1911, and a Glock 30S. And then, saints be praised, last December I tripped over a barely used Springfield Armory 1911 Range Officer, with all of the original accessories and case, and a few add-ons...for $500. Obviously, I broke my rule and bought it. So it sits in the top drawer of my dresser, cleaned, oiled and full of Federal HST's...waiting on some unlucky Zombie to stumble through my door.

Maybe I'll trade it for a used Colt 1911. Probably not. I have serious issues parting with any gun I've ever owned, and that Springfield is by far the most accurate .45 I've ever shot, so...

Just something about a .45 that says "No, I'm not kidding."...ha ha ha

:hi:

The pistol I own now is a Glock 35 for simple ease of use. If the wife needs to use a gun I want one she can easily use. Glocks fit that model to a T.

The first pistol I buy just for me will indeed be a Colt 1911 in .45 ACP. Will wait until the right special release model talks to me. Not too flashy to actually shoot but something separating it from the pack.

And... it will be a Colt too.

:hi:
 
The pistol I own now is a Glock 35 for simple ease of use. If the wife needs to use a gun I want one she can easily use. Glocks fit that model to a T.

The first pistol I buy just for me will indeed be a Colt 1911 in .45 ACP. Will wait until the right special release model talks to me. Not too flashy to actually shoot but something separating it from the pack.

And... it will be a Colt too.

:hi:

Yeah, you're trying too hard lol

Might as well hate me now though. I'm pretty sure I'll be at the NRA Convention sometime next week.

In the dealer area...
 
Yeah, you're trying too hard lol

Might as well hate me now though. I'm pretty sure I'll be at the NRA Convention sometime next week.

In the dealer area...

Hmmmmmmmm... I’m on travel thru Thursday evening for work but expect to have Friday off. You gonna be there on Friday?

Admittedly I’ve always loved the 1911. It just fits my hand. But for my first pistol I wanted a simple gun the wife could use. I’m not a fan of 9x19. Just never have been. So I got the Glock in .40 cal. A good compromise. The model 35 is a bit of a flyer. Huge gun with a long slide. But I like how it shoots.
 
Hmmmmmmmm... I’m on travel thru Thursday evening for work but expect to have Friday off. You gonna be there on Friday?

Admittedly I’ve always loved the 1911. It just fits my hand. But for my first pistol I wanted a simple gun the wife could use. I’m not a fan of 9x19. Just never have been. So I got the Glock in .40 cal. A good compromise. The model 35 is a bit of a flyer. Huge gun with a long slide. But I like how it shoots.

Not Friday for sure, we have another gig in OK with the world's largest onion burger festival concert.

Thursday or Sunday probably. Though I might need Sunday to recuperate.
 
Not Friday for sure, we have another gig in OK with the world's largest onion burger festival concert.

Thursday or Sunday probably. Though I might need Sunday to recuperate.

Keep me posted if you don’t mind. I don’t land Thursday afternoon till around 4PM from NYC.
 
Yeah, you're trying too hard lol

Might as well hate me now though. I'm pretty sure I'll be at the NRA Convention sometime next week.

In the dealer area...

If they have any decals or hats that are guaranteed to send snowflakes into convulsions, grab me one. Just let me know what I owe and I'll have it in the mail next day.

Or you can be a hardhead about it, and I'll just make a campaign donation to Nancy Pelosi in your name.....

:eek:lol:
 
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