Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

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luthervol said:
Were you making a point?

A student should assume that posting a video of himself shooting an AR15 on social media will result in a "conversation" with an administrator or resource officer.
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And a school resource officer or administrator should assume that if they question my child for an innocent picture of him shooting a firearm, it will result in a "conversation" with an attorney.
 
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luthervol said:
How about these written on the boy's bathroom wall?

"A bomb is going off at 2:00 today."

"I brought a bomb to school."

"I'm going to blow this place up."

"Blow it up."

"Someone should blow this place to the ground."

"The bomb is ticking."

"I hope the bomb works."

"Explosions in one hour and counting."

Should any of these be taken seriously? Which ones? Who should decide?
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I'm happy to see that this generated a few good one liners.
What I think may be obvious to some is that on a daily basis, social media messages, things written on a bathroom wall, anonymous notes, rumors, things person x says that person y said, etc...... are having to be evaluated by people responsible for making the judgement call on whether or not it constitutes a legitimate threat that requires further action.

You guys can continue talking about 2a and 1a and this right and that right but when forced to actually get into the role of being the person to draw and interpret the line, the one responsible for making the call, you all seem to have nothing. It's not as easy or cut and dried as you try to delude yourself into thinking.
 
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Mick said:
Kyle Kashuv - Wikipedia

He has been very politically active since the shooting and that is exactly what this is, an insensitive political statement. He was being a little p**ck and deserved to be questioned.
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So when Hogg steps foot in TX and we drag his ass into the popo for interrogation about causing civil unrest in a gun friendly law abiding state that’s ok then too right?
 
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Mick said:
Kyle Kashuv - Wikipedia

He has been very politically active since the shooting and that is exactly what this is, an insensitive political statement. He was being a little p**ck and deserved to be questioned.
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I wish this guy was a minority to watch the liberals get themselves in a twist over supporting the police state or protesting the harassment of minorities by the police.
 
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luthervol said:
I'm happy to see that this generated a few good one liners.
What I think may be obvious to some is that on a daily basis, social media messages, things written on a bathroom wall, anonymous notes, rumors, things person x says that person y said, etc...... are having to be evaluated by people responsible for making the judgement call on whether or not it constitutes a legitimate threat that requires further action.

You guys can continue talking about 2a and 1a and this right and that right but when forced to actually get into the role of being the person to draw and interpret the line, the one responsible for making the call, you all seem to have nothing. It's not as easy or cut and dried as you try to delude yourself into thinking.
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no we have made it very clear from the beginning. clear threats are bad. if it isn't a clear threat it can be looked into but no reason to panic. if there is no threat what so ever (what we have here) then they can shove off.

thats the line. you continue to act that just because the line isn't where you want it to be that there isn't a line at all.
 
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Mick said:
Kyle Kashuv - Wikipedia

He has been very politically active since the shooting and that is exactly what this is, an insensitive political statement. He was being a little p**ck and deserved to be questioned.
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Oh these radical views...

Kashuv supports the bipartisan "STOP School Violence Act" sponsored by U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch and supported by Florida members of Congress Representative John Rutherford, a Republican, and Representative Ted Deutch, a Democrat.[4] Kashuv has asked other prominent Parkland survivors to support the legislation. He favors improving school security and better background checks for gun purchases.[3]

In a March 2018 interview with Face the Nation's Margaret Brennan, Kashuv said he does not believe a ban on assault weapons or high-capacity magazines would eliminate mass shootings. Kashuv instead placed blame for the massacre with "the cowards of Broward", referring to the Broward County Sheriff's Office deputy who did not go inside the school while the shooting was occurring[10] and the department allegedly ignoring prior calls to them regarding concerns about the shooter.[11][12][13]

In the same interview, Kashuv said he agrees with fellow student activists David Hogg and Cameron Kasky "that this cannot happen ever again" adding that they differ on what specific policy measures are necessary. He said he felt frustrated that he was not invited to speak at the March for Our Lives event.[5][14][15]
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And for this you call him a little pr!ck?

Grow up man
 
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volinbham said:
Oh these radical views...



And for this you call him a little pr!ck?

Grow up man
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I said political views not radical first off to destroy your narrative and no that is not why I called him an insensitive little p**ck trying to make a political statement. lack of empathy is actually a sociopathic trait.
 
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luthervol said:
I'm happy to see that this generated a few good one liners.
What I think may be obvious to some is that on a daily basis, social media messages, things written on a bathroom wall, anonymous notes, rumors, things person x says that person y said, etc...... are having to be evaluated by people responsible for making the judgement call on whether or not it constitutes a legitimate threat that requires further action.

You guys can continue talking about 2a and 1a and this right and that right but when forced to actually get into the role of being the person to draw and interpret the line, the one responsible for making the call, you all seem to have nothing. It's not as easy or cut and dried as you try to delude yourself into thinking.
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Our system of laws were not meant to be cut and dried, hard lines you fascist. Or I am guessing you think the three strikes and life in prison is a great idea.
 
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Mick said:
I said political views not radical first off to destroy your narrative and no that is not why I called him an insensitive little p**ck trying to make a political statement. lack of empathy is actually a sociopathic trait.
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Damn, I’m a sociopath.
 
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Mick said:
I said political views not radical first off to destroy your narrative and no that is not why I called him an insensitive little p**ck trying to make a political statement. lack of empathy is actually a sociopathic trait.
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how has he not shown empathy? because some of his classmates were shot he is supposed to completely refrain from guns?
 
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LouderVol said:
no we have made it very clear from the beginning. clear threats are bad. if it isn't a clear threat it can be looked into but no reason to panic. if there is no threat what so ever (what we have here) then they can shove off.

thats the line. you continue to act that just because the line isn't where you want it to be that there isn't a line at all.
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Pretty words that have no meaning.

Clear threats are bad?.....brilliant

The WHOLE question is what is a clear threat?
What is kind of a clear threat?
What is a little bit of a threat but nothing really to worry about?

Who decides?
 
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luthervol said:
Pretty words that have no meaning.

Clear threats are bad?.....brilliant

The WHOLE question is what is a clear threat?
What is kind of a clear threat?
What is a little bit of a threat but nothing really to worry about?

Who decides?
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bait.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
Our system of laws were not meant to be cut and dried, hard lines you fascist. Or I am guessing you think the three strikes and life in prison is a great idea.
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What?

Sometimes I think we may not even be speaking the same language.

I specifically said it's not cut and dried. That was my point, quit trying to steal it.
 
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Mick said:
I said political views not radical first off to destroy your narrative and no that is not why I called him an insensitive little p**ck trying to make a political statement. lack of empathy is actually a sociopathic trait.
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You have no idea of his motive yet assign one anyway and demonize him for your imagined motive - sounds like lack of empathy...
 
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luthervol said:
Were you making a point?

A student should assume that posting a video of himself shooting an AR15 on social media will result in a "conversation" with an administrator or resource officer.
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No they shouldn't. They should assume LE and school involvement if a threat is attached to that. Not because he had a gun, and fired it with an instructor at a range. And especially given his statements attached to the video. If you re about "gun control" in the sense of responsibility and education you should be applauding his efforts to become better informed. Of course you re not going that route and it won't make sense because that doesn't fit your real objective.
 
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volinbham said:
You have no idea of his motive yet assign one anyway and demonize him for your imagined motive - sounds like lack of empathy...
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The motive for posting the images is clear and he even stated it in his post. 2A. If you want to try to see if there is another motive he needs to be questioned. Simple. The outrage for the SRO questioning his motives is unfounded. It got you and your like to rage about it.
 
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Mick said:
The motive for posting the images is clear and he even stated it in his post. 2A. If you want to try to see if there is another motive he needs to be questioned. Simple. The outrage for the SRO questioning his motives is unfounded. It got you and your like to rage about it.
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Being pro 2A doesn't make him a pr!ck; the video doesn't make him a pr1ck.

However, calling someone a pr!ck for espousing views you don't like, well that's a different story altogether.
 
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Mick said:
The motive for posting the images is clear and he even stated it in his post. 2A. If you want to try to see if there is another motive he needs to be questioned. Simple. The outrage for the SRO questioning his motives is unfounded. It got you and your like to rage about it.
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Actually we’re raging about the violation of the kids 1a rights by your dumbass side that latched onto his 2a statement and went overboard.

Edit: and maybe 4a too!
 
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