To Protect and to Serve II

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#5,251
Orangeslice13 said:
Wearing a mask protects those and encourages those who would act violently to act Violent.

And 20 guys wearing the exact same hood (or black mask) is absolutely a problem when one of them acts out.

And I think you know that. At this point you made a dumb statement without thinking it through and now you’re doubling down.
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The problem is the "acting out", not the hood. Wearing a hood is not a transgression. Beating or assaulting someone is, hood or no hood.
 
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midnight orange said:
The problem is the "acting out", not the hood. Wearing a hood is not a transgression. Beating or assaulting someone is, hood or no hood.
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Anonymity encourages acting out.
This message board is proof. People post things here they’d never post on Facebook.

Hooded mobs are far more likely to be violent than non hooded mobs.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Anonymity encourages acting out.
This message board is proof. People post things here they’d never post on Facebook.

Hooded mobs are far more likely to be violent than non hooded mobs.
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So what? Are people being assaulted do to their association with this message board? Is there is evidence of hooded mobs being more prone to violence? If so, does the hood make them impervious to arrest?
 
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midnight orange said:
Is there is evidence of hooded mobs being more prone to violence? If so, does the hood make them impervious to arrest?
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Yes
And yes.

That’s the entire point of this law. Law enforcers couldn’t make arrest because the perpetrators couldn’t be identified.
The klan basically died as a serious threat when anonymity was taken away.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Yes
And yes.

That’s the entire point of this law. Law enforcers couldn’t make arrest because the perpetrators couldn’t be identified.
The klan basically died as a serious threat when anonymity was taken away.
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So a police officer sees a hooded person engaged in an assault but since he can't be identified, the officer must back away. The Klan died for several reasons, mostly due to changing demographics, internal strife and violence that was abhorred by society. It was not due to unmasking because at the height of their popularity, members didn't need anonymity. Do you know anything about history?
 
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This is humorous to watch. The "anti racists" are pissed about a law initially designed to target racists. Looking forward to the ACLU coming to the defense of the Klan while 100 heads at the SPLC spontaneously combust.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Anonymity encourages acting out.
This message board is proof. People post things here they’d never post on Facebook.

Hooded mobs are far more likely to be violent than non hooded mobs.
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Said a mouthful here. I am not on facebook...but my wife is. Most of what gets said here, in the FF, everywhere, would never be posted next to your picture for all the folks who know us in real life to see.

Great analogy slice. The words "internet tough guy " come to mind. Everybody seems to act tough on the web, on the phone, and in their car moving down the highway...whole different ballgame when they are standing right in front of you and that arse will have to back up what that mouth is spewing. I have certainly been in a few arguments here, which I am not proud of, and have posted the words " you wouldn't say that if you were standing in front of me..." and then you always get called the interwebz tough guy...but in reality it's true. Country boys know that if you talk straight junk to a man's face there are consequences for that in real life. I have aged, mellowed, and try to please the Lord these days, so i don't know that just words to me could make me put my hands on a man...but I will admit that certain words to my wife or kids would result in instant physical force. I am very protective of them, and make no apologies for that. My kids "sir and maam" all of their elders because they were raised to treat people with respect. Everyone should. I use sir and maam when i order at the drive thru...to kids that are the same age as mine. A little respect goes a long way
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
There is no reason to have a law that bans masks. We are not talking about a mask or head covering when you take a photo at the DMV. We're talking about protesters.
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I gotta disagree, if you're so moved to protest something, then you shouldn't have to hide your face. If you're hiding, you're intentions aren't good.
 
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midnight orange said:
That's not an arguement.
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Nope. But it does communicate the point that we’re too far apart to understand each other and saying the same things over and over won’t change it.

You don’t like the law....challenge it in court.
The Georgia version has already made it passes the appeals court.
Others versions have been overturned in states like Illinois because of wording but get replaced with laws like the Ga law.

It turns out that you do have a right to privacy so the police can’t ask for you ID ect. But you don’t have the right to not be recognized.

I wish you luck in your efforts to change this law. It’s interesting that the klan is the only group to challenge this law so being on the same side of the argument puts you in good company.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I wish you luck in your efforts to change this law. It’s interesting that the klan is the only group to challenge this law so being on the same side of the argument puts you in good company.
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Nope.

Georgia police invoke law made for KKK to arrest anti-racism protesters - The Washington Post

Unfortunately liberty minded folks get the unpleasant task of defending all kinds of reprobates engaging in reprehensible and not so reprehensible but illegal behavior, as long as they are not initiating violence against another person or their property. That’s why we defend johns, prostitues, drug users, drug dealers, misers, inside traders, racists, reluctant gay wedding cake bakers, etc. from those who would cage them because it offends their delicate sensibilities. Remember

“You today, me tomorrow”
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
The intent of the law was to damask individuals so that individuals who break the law could be identified.
The group that brought a need for this law is irrelevant. Not allowing masks in public reduces criminal activity. Especially in a protest situation.

I’m sure you’d be opposed to the removal of this law and allowing both sides to wear masks. Then again maybe you like the violence.
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There are a million ways to reduce criminal activity, but we don't want a million laws. If you aren't free to anonymously protest, you aren't free.
 
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midnight orange said:
Nope.

Georgia police invoke law made for KKK to arrest anti-racism protesters - The Washington Post

Unfortunately liberty minded folks get the unpleasant task of defending all kinds of reprobates engaging in reprehensible and not so reprehensible but illegal behavior, as long as they are not initiating violence against another person or their property. That’s why we defend johns, prostitues, drug users, drug dealers, misers, inside traders, racists, reluctant gay wedding cake bakers, etc. from those who would cage them because it offends their delicate sensibilities. Remember

“You today, me tomorrow”
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Liberty minded???
You???


That is funny
 
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