To Protect and to Serve II

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Cdywolfe said:
That’s really cute that you two are acting like law enforcement won’t happily trample on the 4th amendment any time the courts allow them to.
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I'm amazed at the number of people who wouldn't know it was me if I bumped into them at Walmart, but they know exactly what I would do under color of law.

Amazing. I should get my lottery numbers from y'all.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
So your question is how would most LEOs act if they were directed to conduct an unlawful search and seizure door to door? Really?🙄
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I really only stop by here to give Ras someone to throw snowballs at, but sometimes the amateurism and ignorance here is beyond belief.

If they're trying to rile me up, I hate to disappoint them...but given the millions of radical Muslims (oops, I said it out loud), and tens if not hundred of thousands of hardened criminals and wack jobs who would gladly shoot me in the back of the head if they had the chance...those who post their anti-cop rhetoric here don't even move my needle one bit. The aluminum foil market is never going to crash thanks to them.

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NorthDallas40 said:
So your question is how would most LEOs act if they were directed to conduct an unlawful search and seizure door to door? Really?🙄
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tumscalcium said:
They already do that outside of homes.
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Someone explain to me the difference between being in my home and outside of my home.

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated... unless you are outside of your home..."
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
I'm amazed at the number of people who wouldn't know it was me if I bumped into them at Walmart, but they know exactly what I would do under color of law.

Amazing. I should get my lottery numbers from y'all.
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Exactly, and this reason alone is why I *try* to avoid this thread.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
The Captain's Journal >> Police Chiefs Lobby Group Campaigns Against National Reciprocity
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Not sure this is a good example.

Though made up of some 30,000 members, just 473 individuals from 39 states elected to lend their name to the letter. There are no active police chiefs who signed the letter from such conservative bulwark states as Idaho, Mississippi, Montana, New Mexico or Nevada. In comparison, states with strict gun laws had numerous chiefs support the declaration. For instance, at least 85 signers were from Massachusetts departments and 55 from New York.
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Nearly a third of the signatories were from NY and MA, shocking. But overall, only 1.5% of their numbers signed it. I'm not sure how they can claim to push that agenda when 98% of their numbers didn't even support it enough to put their name on it.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Not sure this is a good example.



Nearly a third of the signatories were from NY and MA, shocking. But overall, only 1.5% of their numbers signed it. I'm not sure how they can claim to push that agenda when 98% of their numbers didn't even support it enough to put their name on it.
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Example of what? It’s just your usual big bureaucracy where the organization doesn’t speak for the actual members.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Example of what? It’s just your usual big bureaucracy where the organization doesn’t speak for the actual members.
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Example of police hating firearms. My bad on assuming that was your intent.

However, it is refreshing to know 98% didn't care enough or didn't support it to sign it.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Example of police hating firearms. My bad on assuming that was your intent.

However, it is refreshing to know 98% didn't care enough or didn't support it to sign it.
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I think it’s common sense. Honestly, it shows that the average cop is up against an inflated bureaucracy,
who’s only concern is how to garner more votes from a public that has grown more apathetic than ever.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I think it’s common sense. Honestly, it shows that the average cop is up against an inflated bureaucracy, who’s only concern is how to garner more votes from a public that has grown more apathetic than ever.
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I wouldn't necessarily go that far. 98% didn't support it or, again, didn't care enough to sign it. That's an overwhelming majority. And a good portion of those that did sign were listed as (Retired) or not even the head chief.

Just perusing the letter, I saw a lot of NY, CT, MA and CA signatories. Which is kind of to be expected given the politics of the States themselves and the politicians they elect there that in turn appoint the police chiefs.

Just as a reminder though, there are some that buck the system. Remember the Colorado Sheriffs that flatly said they weren't going to support or enforce the idiotic measures put in place a few years ago? 54 of the 64 Sheriffs in Colorado brought a suit against the Governor (though later thrown out) and represent a lot of area in that State. So they lost the suit. It's just as easy to tell individual deputies "don't go looking for it" even in the aftermath of that lawsuit.

In reference to Ras asking about the gun confiscation thing, I doubt there as many cops out there that are as anti-gun as he might like to believe. Chiefs and whatnot maybe (at least 1.5% lol) but the rank and file probably just don't care that much about it or side on the 2A for the most part. I'm not going to slap a percentage on that, but I'd think there would be widespread revolts if a Chief or Sheriff ever ordered them door to door on confiscation. There are those overzealous lots that get all giddy on confiscating that "assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammo!" that gets widely reported. But I don't think they are the majority.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I wouldn't necessarily go that far. 98% didn't support it or, again, didn't care enough to sign it. That's an overwhelming majority. And a good portion of those that did sign were listed as (Retired) or not even the head chief.

Just perusing the letter, I saw a lot of NY, CT, MA and CA signatories. Which is kind of to be expected given the politics of the States themselves and the politicians they elect there that in turn appoint the police chiefs.

Just as a reminder though, there are some that buck the system. Remember the Colorado Sheriffs that flatly said they weren't going to support or enforce the idiotic measures put in place a few years ago? 54 of the 64 Sheriffs in Colorado brought a suit against the Governor (though later thrown out) and represent a lot of area in that State. So they lost the suit. It's just as easy to tell individual deputies "don't go looking for it" even in the aftermath of that lawsuit.

In reference to Ras asking about the gun confiscation thing, I doubt there as many cops out there that are as anti-gun as he might like to believe. Chiefs and whatnot maybe (at least 1.5% lol) but the rank and file probably just don't care that much about it or side on the 2A for the most part. I'm not going to slap a percentage on that, but I'd think there would be widespread revolts if a Chief or Sheriff ever ordered them door to door on confiscation. There are those overzealous lots that get all giddy on confiscating that "assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammo!" that gets widely reported. But I don't think they are the majority.
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There are those who buck the system and to those few, I say, huzzah!

Ironically some of the names on that list are from some of the most crime ridden ****holes this country has to offer. Gee... I wonder why those citizens would like the right to carry to defend themselves and their families. Nothing galls me more than some government jackass telling a citizen they don’t have the right protect their lives with the best means available, all the while they can have whatever they want.
 
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theutvolunteers said:
I have no doubt most police would love to bust in my door for a gun or anything if they were ordered to do so.
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Grand Vol said:
In reference to Ras asking about the gun confiscation thing, I doubt there as many cops out there that are as anti-gun as he might like to believe. Chiefs and whatnot maybe (at least 1.5% lol) but the rank and file probably just don't care that much about it or side on the 2A for the most part. I'm not going to slap a percentage on that, but I'd think there would be widespread revolts if a Chief or Sheriff ever ordered them door to door on confiscation. There are those overzealous lots that get all giddy on confiscating that "assault rifle and hundreds of rounds of ammo!" that gets widely reported. But I don't think they are the majority.
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How about marijuana, moonshine or a poker game?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Don't wear a mask... WTF?
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The intent of the law was to damask individuals so that individuals who break the law could be identified.
The group that brought a need for this law is irrelevant. Not allowing masks in public reduces criminal activity. Especially in a protest situation.

I’m sure you’d be opposed to the removal of this law and allowing both sides to wear masks.
Then again maybe you like the violence.
 
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