Transfers?

[cutiepie5]

I'm still waiting on Diamond to leave since she was the issue. Things will be much better.

Lol. Exactly. :thumbsup: It was easy for everyone to make her the scapegoat. Turns out, she wasn’t the issue. I just think she hated to lose and there was a WHOLE lotta losing going on last year. I would’ve been pissed myself as a player.

 

[Volle]

Good post; however, I think there will be a decrease in the buyout. Phillip and Holly are pals from way back, but there is pressure to get this program back in the winner’s circle.

If Holly doesn’t get to the Elite 8 next year she’s gone. Don’t worry about transfers if Fulmer makes a great hire, which he can do because he knows everyone and had daughters who were athletes.

With the past two classes and future outlooks, this program would look extremely attractive for the next head coach.

If our young ladies work hard in the off season they can help save Holly. if not, we most likely have a new HC this time next year.

Great post... If it happens, I think Phil will have a solid candidate before he let’s Holly go, so to avoid the bumbleF coaching searches at UT in the last decade.

 

[VA_VOLFAN]

Grades.

Rellah news | Hornfans

While it may seem like grades this young lady has really been going thru. I would suggesf anyone wanting to know from her point of view go check out her twitter as it is filled with some really personal things and she addresses the issues. Talks about the loss of someone to suicide, almost losing her mother twice and her best friend being gunned down in a drive by and this was all before making a college choice. It also addresses “ that it was obvious I was very unhappy with playing time”. She said this was her choice and she made the best choice for her and was even offered to come back to UT after a year playing for FL Golf Coast but didn’t wanna reopen a shut door. Feel bad for the young lady. She asks that instead of writing negative things about her use that energy to lift her up and pray for her. So prayers up!

Look up rell000 on twitter or type it in a search engine. This is a good read for anyone that wants to hear it directly from the source.

 

[DeerPark12]

Lol. Exactly. :thumbsup: It was easy for everyone to make her the scapegoat. Turns out, she wasn’t the issue. I just think she hated to lose and there was a WHOLE lotta losing going on last year. I would’ve been pissed myself as a player.

I think the way the team played over the first half of the season made it very clear that Diamond was a huge issue the year prior.

If you want to know, you can ask any of the Tennessee players that played with her not named Tea Cooper. Any of them will be happy to tell you exactly the kind of cancer she was.

 

[volsarelife1]

I think the way the team played over the first half of the season made it very clear that Diamond was a huge issue the year prior.

If you want to know, you can ask any of the Tennessee players that played with her not named Tea Cooper. Any of them will be happy to tell you exactly the kind of cancer she was.

So does that mean the way they played the second half of the season then falls on Holly?

 

[Darth_Vol]

I think the way the team played over the first half of the season made it very clear that Diamond was a huge issue the year prior.

And the way the team played in the second half of the season and the postseason made it clear that excuse is BS. Sorry the facts disagree with your agenda....

 

[1CHATTVOL]

And the way the team played in the second half of the season and the postseason made it clear that excuse is BS. Sorry the facts disagree with your agenda....

My personal conversations with insiders and team members and the team's public comments support what DeerPark12 is saying.

You can take 2 paths to the same spot. That doesn't mean the one of the paths wasn't treacherous and more difficult to travel.

Just read yesterday that WNBA coaches are concerned about DD, her inconsistencies, and the problems evident from her time at TN.

 

[Amb3096]

My personal conversations with insiders and team members and the team's public comments support what DeerPark12 is saying.

You can take 2 paths to the same spot. That doesn't mean the one of the paths wasn't treacherous and more difficult to travel.

So the issue with the team's performance was not chemistry, since they had the same problems once the so-called cancer was removed.

If Diamond was such a detriment to the team, it's just another example of Holly's ineffectiveness for not doing something about it. She would have still been on the team if she hadn't abruptly decided to leave, so it just makes any comments about her from the team and staff look like sour grapes.

 

[1CHATTVOL]

So the issue with the team's performance was not chemistry, since they had the same problems once the so-called cancer was removed.

If Diamond was such a detriment to the team, it's just another example of Holly's ineffectiveness for not doing something about it. She would have still been on the team if she hadn't abruptly decided to leave, so it just makes any comments about her from the team and staff look like sour grapes.

Wow, you totally took that sideways, Amb. I know you like DD. I did, too. I thought she was destined to be the next legend. But through a combination of ingredients, she did become a cancer. The worst part was really that she had the most ability but was not willing to use it except when she felt like it. Thus, when she got up for big games, we had huge wins. On lower ranked opponents, she loafed and thought she could just turn it on in time to win. Thus, we had huge losses.

(We won't even rehash the behind the scenes stuff with other players.)

This team didn't have those bad losses despite relying heavily on freshmen. We lost 2 games in the SEC that we shouldn't. Our record this year is 6 games better.

If you want to blame Holly, that's your prerogative. But it won't alter the truth of the DD chemistry issues.

 

[djtee]

Texas Freshman Rellah Boothe heading to Community College

Twitter

Here is another one on the move. Grayson Bright, 5-11 sophomore guard out of Fort Worth, TX, has announced that she's transferring from Texas Tech

 

[glv98]

I often felt during the second half of the season that I owed DD an apology. If the same mistakes continue to happen after she's gone, obviously the blame-o-meter has to shift in the direction of the constant - Holly.

Looking back, the whole sad DD episode is not really a blame or fault event, just a perfect storm of a really bad hookup. DD and CHW brought out the worst in each other - the coaching DD desparetly needed, focus, discipline, decision-making, consistency, is exactly the coaching CHW is apparently unable to provide. Unfortunately, the result was more harmful and destructive for both parties than anyone could have predicted.

I wasn't around the forums then, not sure if there was hesitation on either side before DD signed. Looks like someone should have seen the mismatch coming and in fact, I heard Mickie Dearstone say decisively on radio that one place she'd never play was the
University of Tennessee. A week later she was a Lady Vol. I know it's Dearstone and all, and I know its water way over the dam, but what happened? Did we sell our souls a little bit for the prospect of a great one-on-one scorer?

 

[T_Vol376]

“the coaching DD needed, focus, discipline, consistency, is exactly the coaching CHW is apparently unable to provide.”

No one can. Talk to some of her former coaches.

 

[glv98]

“the coaching DD needed, focus, discipline, consistency, is exactly the coaching CHW is apparently unable to provide.”

No one can. Talk to some of her former coaches.

Right, thus the question. No one saw all that coming? There was history, both DD's and Holly's.

Also, what was so disappointing the second half of this season was that CHW was again unable to provide the same badly needed coaching to a new crop of kids.

I'm sure between the ears issues is the hardest part of coaching but CHW just seems to struggle mightily with it.

 

[T_Vol376]

No one saw all that coming? There was history, both DD's and Holly's.

Had HW not taken the National Freshman of the Year she would have been crucified.

 

[LA Vol]

Chemistry was far from this team's biggest problem. The LVs would have been worse without DD last year and they'd have been better with her this year. She didn't respect Holly and Holly wants everybody to like her. If Holly wants to be the players' buddy, who's going to be their coach?

 

[glv98]

Had HW not taken the National Freshman of the Year she would have been crucified.

Yeah I get that. The great one on one scorer is the third leg to the LV old school offense triad. If you can't score off putbacks or turnovers, if forced into the halfcourt, depend on the great one on one scorer. No accident the last time we had one of those (Parker) was the last time we got near the Final Four.

But times have changed, especially offensively, and DD turned out not to be the scorer of our dreams anyway. So we just got delayed two years actually modernizing our attack.

Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't! Its why I say the whole thing was unfortunate and sad. And terribly destructive to all.

 

[T_Vol376]

Yeah I get that. The great one on one scorer is the third leg to the LV old school offense triad. If you can't score off putbacks or turnovers, if forced into the halfcourt, depend on the great one on one scorer. No accident the last time we had one of those (Parker) was the last time we got near the Final Four.

But times have changed, especially offensively, and DD turned out not to be the scorer of our dreams anyway. So we just got delayed two years actually modernizing our attack.

Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't! Its why I say the whole thing was unfortunate and sad. And terribly destructive to all.

It certainly was bad and definitely a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation for HW. No one can deny DD’s talent, but she will check out of a game in a heartbeat if she feels like it though... as was noted by 1CV in an earlier post.

Did anyone else see her Tweet in response to someone else’s tweet that “the WNBA was boring?” Her response: “They’re about to get better.” I can only assume she meant because she is about to be drafted.

I see “God’s favorite daughter” didn’t gain any humility during her time playing in Turkey. LOL

 

[PRG]

LSU: Chloe Jackson and Tatum Neubert are transferring. Chloe was their leading scorer at 18 points a game.She came from NC state and has one year of eligibility left.Neubert is from Co. And is transferring to Colorado state. Not sure about where Jackson is going?

 

[Coach Jumper]

“the coaching DD needed, focus, discipline, consistency, is exactly the coaching CHW is apparently unable to provide.”

No one can. Talk to some of her former coaches.

The Pistols got the best out of her!

 

[T_Vol376]

The Pistols got the best out of her!

Good for them. I know of a coach who has talked to her former coaches about her and their remarks were not positive in regard to her attitude.

 

[Coach Jumper]

Good for them. I know of a coach who has talked to her former coaches about her and their remarks were not positive in regard to her attitude.

She played for 3 AAU national titles in 3 years.
Was it one of those 3 coaches?

Your personna, presence and personality has to be greater than your players, when it comes to coaching.

Geno Auriemma : Maya, Turassi
Pat Summitt: Candace, Chamique
Dean Smith: Michael Jordan

In each case, the coaches were known and "extremely visible" when they coached their star-players. This took public and "press" attention off of the players so they could excel.

The coaches who didn't struggle with DD has more personality and confidence than she did.

 

[Undercovervol]

I hate to say this on this board, but CHW was not the coach Deshields apparently needs in order to be a team player and maximize her potential. In fact, she needed a Geno or a Kim Mulkey. I shudder to think how good of a player she would've been at UCONN. She needs a disciplinarian; someone who will force her to adapt to a strict system and strict standards. And even CHW lovers have to admit that she is no hard nosed coach with a strict system. Deshields could've been one of the greatest scoring guards in WCBB...but she never reached her potential. She also didn't play defense.

 

[Coach Jumper]

I hate to say this on this board, but CHW was not the coach Deshields apparently needs in order to be a team player and maximize her potential. In fact, she needed a Geno or a Kim Mulkey. I shudder to think how good of a player she would've been at UCONN. She needs a disciplinarian; someone who will force her to adapt to a strict system and strict standards. And even CHW lovers have to admit that she is no hard nosed coach with a strict system. Deshields could've been one of the greatest scoring guards in WCBB...but she never reached her potential. She also didn't play defense.

When she DID defend, she was incredible...But like any kid,, she knew if her "best" was not demanded, they weren't getting it!

Kids are kids...10 years old or 22,, doesn't matter.
It is the adult that guides the child. An unguided child rarely develops on its own.

 

[Texas]

Wow, you totally took that sideways, Amb. I know you like DD. I did, too. I thought she was destined to be the next legend. But through a combination of ingredients, she did become a cancer. The worst part was really that she had the most ability but was not willing to use it except when she felt like it. Thus, when she got up for big games, we had huge wins. On lower ranked opponents, she loafed and thought she could just turn it on in time to win. Thus, we had huge losses.

(We won't even rehash the behind the scenes stuff with other players.)

This team didn't have those bad losses despite relying heavily on freshmen. We lost 2 games in the SEC that we shouldn't. Our record this year is 6 games better.

If you want to blame Holly, that's your prerogative. But it won't alter the truth of the DD chemistry issues.

Hmmmm. To me, winning 6 extra games in a still unremarkable season, is less of an accomplishment than being able the prior season to beat 3 of the final four teams and both finalists. (A Wilson-less SoCa team to me does not count as a major victory)

 

[cutiepie5]

Chemistry was far from this team's biggest problem. The LVs would have been worse without DD last year and they'd have been better with her this year. She didn't respect Holly and Holly wants everybody to like her. If Holly wants to be the players' buddy, who's going to be their coach?

This ^ 100%.

Also, some of the great ones (e.g. Michael Jordan) were difficult to play with because they wanted to win so bad but were surrounded by people who didn’t want it as bad as they did. Watching Jaime and Mercedes half-ass for the last two seasons, I would’ve been pissed, too, especially if the coach didn’t correctively motivate them to play harder. I noticed Diamond didn’t play as hard as she did in the beginning of the season but it did seem like she was the only one playing hard in a lot of the early games. I’ve had teammates who were allowed to pick and choose which games they got motivated for....terrible situation in a team dynamic. It’s a pain the ass, especially when you call them out on it.

If wanting your teammates to play harder and be held accountable is being a cancer then so be it. I saw a bunch of laziness on the team this past season (jogging down the floor, etc) and would have been a terrible teammate myself! I hated to lose. We were old school and held each other accountable but it starts with the COACH!