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butchna said:
This one was more noted than either as a teacher and tactician and did so at Bama Memorial, FSU Hospital and UGA & Hedges. Your transition is in good hands. :huggy:
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He's definitely observed from some great surgeons as did Dr. Dooley, but he's never actually performed the surgery so it remains to be seen how successful he will be. I'm hoping for the best.
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I’m not sure rational is a great term here. Being overly pessimistic and claiming our whole team sucks over and over seems more like an overreaction.



Not sure why you keep trying to troll people into the OL argument when others have already addressed it, but I’ll bite.

Plenty of teams without a good OL have made a bowl game. Even an average staff can find some ways to work around a bad OL. 2 years ago USCe (with a freshman QB and Roper as OC, no less) managed to beat us with a terrible OL. Kiffin had very little to work with and made a bowl when he was here.

Our previous staff was bad at making adjustments to take strain off the OL. If Helton and Friend know what they’re doing, they’ll mitigate our OL problems and keep it from sinking the entire season.

Honestly, I’d rather have promising skill players and a weak OL than the inverse. In 2013 we had an OL full of studs and it didn’t really matter because we didn’t have any WRs who could get open or make plays (except for Pig Howard on jet sweeps and a couple of prayers thrown to Marquez North), a QB who could complete a pass more than 15 yards downfield, or a RB defenses had to worry about making them pay if he got to the second level.
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What's funny is that the 2018 OL has the highest average 247 rating of any team dating back to 2013, when I started keeping score.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
He's definitely observed from some great surgeons as did Dr. Dooley, but he's never actually performed the surgery so it remains to be seen how successful he will be. I'm hoping for the best.
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He was much more involved in those surgeries than dr Dooley. Hahaha
 
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Darth_Shiveman said:
I’m not sure rational is a great term here. Being overly pessimistic and claiming our whole team sucks over and over seems more like an overreaction.




Not sure why you keep trying to troll people into the OL argument when others have already addressed it, but I’ll bite.

Plenty of teams without a good OL have made a bowl game. Even an average staff can find some ways to work around a bad OL. 2 years ago USCe (with a freshman QB and Roper as OC, no less) managed to beat us with a terrible OL. Kiffin had very little to work with and made a bowl when he was here.

Our previous staff was bad at making adjustments to take strain off the OL. If Helton and Friend know what they’re doing, they’ll mitigate our OL problems and keep it from sinking the entire season.

Honestly, I’d rather have promising skill players and a weak OL than the inverse. In 2013 we had an OL full of studs and it didn’t really matter because we didn’t have any WRs who could get open or make plays (except for Pig Howard on jet sweeps and a couple of prayers thrown to Marquez North), a QB who could complete a pass more than 15 yards downfield, or a RB defenses had to worry about making them pay if he got to the second level.
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I have not said our whole team sucks, that is a misunderstanding, admittedly my fault for not explaining my perceptions better.*

I think we are good, but not very good or great at WR, but I do think we could become very good, and maybe even borderline great with the talent there and good coaching, which it seems we are getting.

I think we are good at RB, but very shallow depth is going to be a concern.

I think are meh at TE, with zero depth.

I think we are good at LB, but once again very shallow.

I think we are great at one Safety spot and blech to meh at the other, and once again..zero depth.

I think we are blech at CB till proven otherwise...excluding Shamburger, I think he will be good...and no depth.

I think we are meh right now along DL, with a chance to become really good as coaching and takes hold.

I think the OL is the worst position on the team till it's proven otherwise and without Smith it is a total disaster. I hope and believe they can get better with better coaching, but it is hard not to improve on the completely horrid play we got last season.

And finally nobody can accuse me of criticizing JG at QB. I have defended him. I don't see how he could have performed much better with the garbage OL and WR play he had to work with, plus the crap playcalling and coaching he received. He has potential to be a great QB still I think.

Now that is how I feel, I am not a troll...I very well could be wrong, unlike true negavols I want to be proven wrong..especially about the OL. I hope they miraculously turn into a bunch of scrappy tough players that nobody wants to tangle with, but I just don't see it happening now.
 
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MockingVol said:
I try to avoid specifics from the scrimmage and other non-mediated practice times, but I don’t quite get the Gray praise. He didn’t have a bad day during the scrimmage, and the fact he was in there a lot prices the staff thinks highly of him, but he got burned more than once.

Honestly, not a single service has talked about our best pass defender yet... Big numba 2. Shy had 2 PBU during the scrimmage where he collapsed the pocket and then deflected the pass with perfect timing.
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Saw how jacked he looked. He stays healthy then he will be a BEAST this year.
 
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Sleegro said:
He was much more involved in those surgeries than dr Dooley. Hahaha
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Like I said, I'm pulling for him. But I'm past going all in on unknown commodity. Fact is he's never ran any program before let alone one the size of TN. My blind optimism ran out on the last coach.
 
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LA Vol said:
Funny how those who expect to win so often do, while those who expect to lose are the ones who complain the most when they end up doing what they expected to do.

Was Loyola unreasonable when they expected to beat Miami... Tennessee... Nevada... Kansas St? When you have talent, good coaches and strong fan support, expecting to win isn't unreasonable. It's exactly what we should be doing.
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I think Pruitt's expectation to wing every game is going to evoke a culture change that this team needs badly. I think CJP legitimately expects to win every game and instilling that attitude in this team will be very helpful. I am not going to make any predictions on how many we will win, but I can almost guarantee you that we will go into most every game thinking we will win.
 
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LA Vol said:
Announced yesterday, pending approval:
  • John Compton, former CEO of Pilot Flying J travel centers and current partner with Clayton, Dubilier and Rice
  • Kara Lawson, former Lady Vol and current basketball television analyst for ESPN and the Washington Wizards
  • Donnie Smith, former President and Chief Executive Officer of Tyson Foods
  • Sharon Pryse, Chief Executive Officer and Founder of The Trust Company
  • Kim White, President and Chief Executive Officer of River City Company
  • Bill Rhodes, Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer of AutoZone
  • Melvin Malone, former Special Tennessee Supreme Court Justice and current practice group leader with Butler Snow LLP
  • Bill Evans, former Director and Chief Executive Officer of St. Jude Children’s Research Hospital
  • Raja Jubran, Chief Executive Officer of Denark Construction
  • Brad Lampley, former Tennessee Volunteers football player and current partner in charge of the Nashville office of Adams and Reese, LLP
I'd call that stacking the deck.
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F Raja and Jimmy Haslam
 
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Ulysees E. McGill said:
I guess that is why I'm trying to be more rational now. I learned my lesson the hard way. Oh and by the way, outside of Trey Smith, who very well could he unavailable, nobody on the OL has ever played very well..not one of them.
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I don't even have D4H on ignore, but you might be my first.

Seriously, I can't tell what it is about you.. your need to be right, your "sorry not sorry" sometimes flawed matter-of-fact-ness, or (what's been obvious in your posts today) your pessimism that you paint as optimism. Your existence on this board equates to a backhanded compliment. You have the nicest thoughts and feelings about UT, but it only comes out in a negatively framed argument. It's annoying to read through, because I can't tell if you're a 17 year old who thinks they're right about everything, or a 57 year old who thinks they're right about everything.
 
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Maybe this link will shed some more light on your thoughts about Patrick Reed.

The Villain: Patrick Reed | Tobacco Road Blues

Professional athletes Aaron Rodgers and Sean O'Hair had their reasons for distancing themselves from their families as well. The wife/significant other received much of the blame for it with them just like Justine. Patrick screwed up as a kid. His parents bailed him out along with his AS golf coach. Wonder what led him to have so much anger and desire to prove himself better than everybody else at the one thing he loved? There appear to be some big clues in the article. Doesn't make one or another all right or all wrong. But it takes all parties to sincerely ask for forgiveness of each other for reconciliation to happen. Been there.
 
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drvenner said:
How does he know this? He was not even allowed to watch any of it. I personally think anybody banking on any of the paysites evaluations are going to be surprised one way or another.
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I'm guessing VQ mods might have a source or three who did watch the scrimmage?
 
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But we did just pick up crystal balls for S Jaylen McCollough and WR Ramel Keyton, both from Bud Elliott. Maybe that helps keep some of us away from the ledge.
 
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