Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are CLEARLY the 2 best QBs in the 2018 NFL Draft

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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Just stop it.

I'm sick and tired of people pretending like they knew Alvin would be as good as he's been in the NFL. This is nothing more than revisionist history. All of you were on Leonard Fournette or Dalvin Cook. I'm the only person anywhere that said Alvin would be a superstar in the NFL. The only one.
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Nope. Check my stats
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Kyle Shanahan made him the MVP. Just like he made RG3 Rookie of the Year. That guy is simply an offensive mastermind that makes QBs look a lot better than they really are.

Matt Ryan is really a slightly above average starting QB in the NFL. He's not elite. And his lack of elite play outside of that one magical year with Kyle Shanahan proves it.

Matt Ryan isn't a great QB. He's simply good.
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dude he took Mike ****ing Smith team to the playoffs year 1 and that was after the Mike Vick and petrino ****
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
A whole lot of rambling about nothing.

Once again, I'll let the NFL decide who is right.

If Josh Dobbs isn't 2x the player Deshaun Watson is in the NFL, then I'll take back everything I said about him.

I'm that confident in Josh Dobbs ability.
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Still waiting on that bet regarding Dobbs having a “monster” year this upcoming season.
 
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KBVol said:
This time next year it’ll start in ‘19
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Shh D4H never changes his predictions. you know, except halfway thru the season. and then its counts as a preseason prediction. cause reasons. and he was a genius for his mid season/preseason prediction being better than other peoples preseason predictions.

and you know never look at stats, or the game itself.
 
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TennTom said:
If Rosen, Darnold, and Rudolph read Volnation, they should all be buying mansions, Bentleys, and Benettis. Guaranteed success coming now.
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I've already said Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen will be Pro Bowl caliber starting QBs in the NFL. I like them, I just don't like them as much as Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson because they lack their upside.

Mason Rudolph is the guy who is trash. My sleeper in this draft is Kyle Lauletta. Someone will get him on Day 2 and he'll develop into a solid starter in the league.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I've already said Sam Darnold and Josh Rosen will be Pro Bowl caliber starting QBs in the NFL. I like them, I just don't like them as much as Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson because they lack their upside.

Mason Rudolph is the guy who is trash. My sleeper in this draft is Kyle Lauletta. Someone will get him on Day 2 and he'll develop into a solid starter in the league.
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Agree with you on Rudolph and throw in Falk as trash too
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I don't make my name on predicting awards. I make it based on assessing TALENT. And my record is still elite when it comes to assessing TALENT. I never said Kamara would win Rookie of the Year. But I did say he was the #1 RB in the 2017 NFL Draft and the next Marshall Faulk. And he's proven me right thus far.

Also before you start claiming I was wrong about Dobbs, Davis, and Kaaya as talents, just remember it takes QBs and WRs longer to break out in the NFL than RBs. Just look up Antonio Brown, Tom Brady, and Aaron Rodgers numbers as rookies. Very unimpressive. Especially Antonio Brown who got plenty of playing time.

QB and WR are positions that players break out at age 25 rather than age 22 or 23 as is the case for RBs.

I'm still standing by my assesment of Josh Dobbs, Corey Davis, and Brad Kaaya. Dobbs will be a future Hall of Fame QB. Corey Davis will be the best WR in the NFL over the next 10 years. And Brad Kaaya will be a solid Matt Ryan level QB in the NFL.
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For the love of god, drop the Alvin Kamara stuff. That is your ONLY argument. At what point do you realize that's all you got right and just admit you cant assess talent worth a crap? Literally I cant read 3 of your posts without seeing Kamara's name. We all knew Kamara would be a much better pro player. Seeing all the predictions you have made, thats literally the only one you have gotten right. Pretty sad to be honest. Also your constant arguing to prove your e-cred pretty sad as well.....Just accept you were way off with majority of your predictions.
 
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Jpcisco said:
For the love of god, drop the Alvin Kamara stuff. That is your ONLY argument. At what point do you realize that's all you got right and just admit you cant assess talent worth a crap? Literally I cant read 3 of your posts without seeing Kamara's name. We all knew Kamara would be a much better pro player. Seeing all the predictions you have made, thats literally the only one you have gotten right. Pretty sad to be honest. Also your constant arguing to prove your e-cred pretty sad as well.....Just accept you were way off with majority of your predictions.
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There's a difference between being a good NFL player and being a SUPERSTAR. I didn't just say Alvin would be good in the NFL, I was specific. I said he would be the next Marshall Faulk. I said he would be a star. I said he would be a future Hall of Famer. No one else was saying that.

Also, no one else said he was better than Fournette and Cook coming out. I was the only one that said he was the #1 RB in the 2017 NFL Draft. The only one.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
There's a difference between being a good NFL player and being a SUPERSTAR. I didn't just say Alvin would be good in the NFL, I was specific. I said he would be the next Marshall Faulk. I said he would be a star. I said he would be a future Hall of Famer. No one else was saying that.

Also, no one else said he was better than Fournette and Cook coming out. I was the only one that said he was the #1 RB in the 2017 NFL Draft. The only one.
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Kamara is a good running back, has great numbers for a rookie, but if you don't think that it helps that he got to share carries with Mark Ingram in his rookie year, then your are even more football-ignorant than you've appeared in the rest of the thread.

Fournette was asked to carry Jacksonville's backfield in his rookie season, with more than double the carries of the next RB on the team, and Cook was injured in October, but don't let reality affect your attempt to hype Kamara to a mythological-deity-status though.
 
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BeardedVol said:
Kamara is a good running back, has great numbers for a rookie, but if you don't think that it helps that he got to share carries with Mark Ingram in his rookie year, then your are even more football-ignorant than you've appeared in the rest of the thread.

Fournette was asked to carry Jacksonville's backfield in his rookie season, with more than double the carries of the next RB on the team, and Cook was injured in October, but don't let reality affect your attempt to hype Kamara to a mythological-deity-status though.
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Ok. This is good. Go on the record right now and say Leonard Fournette is a better RB than Alvin Kamara and will have a better year next year. Better yet say Alvin's rookie year was a fluke and he won't be Pro Bowler or All Pro next year.

I beg for you to try diminish Alvin Kamara's greatness.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Ok. This is good. Go on the record right now and say Leonard Fournette is a better RB than Alvin Kamara and will have a better year next year. Better yet say Alvin's rookie year was a fluke and he won't be Pro Bowler or All Pro next year.

I beg for you to try diminish Alvin Kamara's greatness.
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Nobody has to prove anything to the you. You do a great job showing how little you know about football.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Ok. This is good. Go on the record right now and say Leonard Fournette is a better RB than Alvin Kamara and will have a better year next year. Better yet say Alvin's rookie year was a fluke and he won't be Pro Bowler or All Pro next year.

I beg for you to try diminish Alvin Kamara's greatness.
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Do explain, how does my objectivity, diminish Kamara's abilities as a running back?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Then please be "objective" and tell me Fournette is a better RB than Alvin Kamara and his production will prove that going forward.

I beg you.
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Where did I state anything concerning who is the better running back? Kamara had a better rookie season based on his stats, which you only believe in when it supports your insanity, but Fournette and Kamara were in two very different situations, and really aren't even comparable.

You're willfully deluding yourself into thinking that being asked to carry the backfield for Jacksonville in your rookie season, is the same as being asked to carry the ball half as many times as your teammate Mark Ingram.

I'm objective enough to know that regardless of how much I enjoy watching Karmara, that those two situations are not even close to comparable; you on the other hand have an embarrassing man-crush on Kamara that clouds even the most basic of judgements.
 
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Imagine Kamara’s stats if you put him in Jacksonville instead of NO. Yuck.

Kamara is an absolute baller but he landed in the perfect spot, too. Brees and that offense are tailor made for a guy with Alvin’s skill set.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
I don't make my name on predicting awards. I make it based on assessing TALENT. And my record is still elite when it comes to assessing TALENT. I never said Kamara would win Rookie of the Year. But I did say he was the #1 RB in the 2017 NFL Draft and the next Marshall Faulk. And he's proven me right thus far.

Also before you start claiming I was wrong about Dobbs, Davis, and Kaaya as talents, just remember it takes QBs and WRs longer to break out in the NFL than RBs. Just look up Antonio Brown, Tom Brady, and Aaron Rodgers numbers as rookies. Very unimpressive. Especially Antonio Brown who got plenty of playing time.

QB and WR are positions that players break out at age 25 rather than age 22 or 23 as is the case for RBs.

I'm still standing by my assesment of Josh Dobbs, Corey Davis, and Brad Kaaya. Dobbs will be a future Hall of Fame QB. Corey Davis will be the best WR in the NFL over the next 10 years. And Brad Kaaya will be a solid Matt Ryan level QB in the NFL.
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How many games did Aaron Rodgers play his rookie year behind Brett Favre? :blink::thud: :lolabove:
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You seem to not understand sarcasm. That's called a joke genius.

I'm by far Dobbs biggest defender on this site. My record is clear.
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No, it wasn't. Everybody on here remembers you turning on him. If being a delusional lying dipwad paid a decent wage, you would own the internet.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
There's a difference between being a good NFL player and being a SUPERSTAR. I didn't just say Alvin would be good in the NFL, I was specific. I said he would be the next Marshall Faulk. I said he would be a star. I said he would be a future Hall of Famer. No one else was saying that.

Also, no one else said he was better than Fournette and Cook coming out. I was the only one that said he was the #1 RB in the 2017 NFL Draft. The only one.
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Talk about jinxing the poor kid after winning rookie of the year which btw I can name quite a few who flamed out no long after that but now he’s probably destined for a mcgahee 2002 bcs title game type injury where he rips every damn ligament in his knee with your talk

You talking like he just finished his Faulk like career lol the boy is electric but he splits carries for **** sake

He probably has a better career then sproles but if he ever tries to carry the load like a real RB at his size his ceiling is Brian Westbrook

You talk about Kamara like he’s promised some Ladanian Tomlinson or AP type career pretty much the only locks for the HOF that played the majority of they’re career this century

But hey u got the crystal ball and of course u know it all
 
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Oh yea btw it took D Watson and D Cook getting injured for that ROTY

Watson would of been a lock if he played 3 or 4 more games

And Cook would have killed it in Minnesota without a doubt he would of killed Kamara in rush yards and plenty of rec yards too

He had

350 rush yds and 90 in less then 4 games

And anybody that liked Cook and Fournette ain’t wrong. Fournette had a hell of a rookie year and Cook was on his way as a I’ve shown

Those 2 broke a lot of long td runs in college they dominated a lot games

You’re boy Kamara is a split carries guy not don’t thinks many of those guys ever made it to the HOF lol
 
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