TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

[Vol0725]

It is what he will do if Manafort starts cooperating.

Will you ever stop? lol:lol:lol:

 

[Mick]

Manafort has shown no signs of being willing to yet, I doubt he will.

We'll wait and see.

IMO if he does not cooperate then the trial will begin as scheduled. Really we should know if he will or not in the next month. He has proven to be a tough nut to crack for Mueller as far as cooperating but I think he might.

 

[hog88]

IMO if he does not cooperate then the trial will begin as scheduled. Really we should know if he will or not in the next month. He has proven to be a tough nut to crack for Mueller as far as cooperating but I think he might.

Some signs to watch for, if Muller files additional charges in anther jurisdiction and or asks for a postponement. Any of these two happens it shows that Muller does not want to go to court.

 

[Mick]

Interesting that he had no cooperation deal and still received a relatively light sentence.

For someone that is a nobody and just lied he had nothing to offer to get a deal.

 

[hog88]

For someone that is a nobody and just lied he had nothing to offer to get a deal.

He obviously is "somebody" enough for a special prosecutor to interrogate and charge. Why waste the time and resources on a "nobody"?

 

[Mick]

He obviously is "somebody" enough for a special prosecutor to interrogate and charge. Why waste the time and resources on a "nobody"?

Yes, he was the kingpin and only got 30 days. He is the least know person of everyone charged.

 

[hog88]

Yes, he was the kingpin and only got 30 days. He is the least know person of everyone charged.

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Face it, the sentence is a reflection of the weakness of the prosecution. Hell, Martha Stewart got more time for the exact same charge in a case about taxes not treason.

 

[Vol0725]

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Face it, the sentence is a reflection of the weakness of the prosecution. Hell, Martha Stewart got more time for the exact same charge in a case about taxes not treason.

Exactly. It’s a straw grasp. Blah blah nothing to see here

 

[lawgator1]

Yes, he was the kingpin and only got 30 days. He is the least know person of everyone charged.

I don't read anything into the sentence, one way or the other.

However, Trump should pay close attention to the judge's comment that its time to send a message to those who might lie to the FBI.

 

[hog88]

I don't read anything into the sentence, one way or the other.

However, Trump should pay close attention to the judge's comment that its time to send a message to those who might lie to the FBI.

Hell of a message, 30 days and 20k.

He'll do about 2 weeks and his father in law is a billionaire.

edit: If he would have gotten the max you would have creamed yourself posting how this is a sign of doom for Trump.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Some signs to watch for, if Muller files additional charges in anther jurisdiction and or asks for a postponement. Any of these two happens it shows that Muller does not want to go to court.

He already played the additional charges card on Gates and Manafort once. No further reason to squeeze Gates since he pled I guess but he might try to drag Manafort’s out. His attorney should press for a speedy trial.

 

[Mick]

What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

Face it, the sentence is a reflection of the weakness of the prosecution. Hell, Martha Stewart got more time for the exact same charge in a case about taxes not treason.

You are trying to make it out to be a major waste of time to prosecute him. It was not a waste, he lied, was charged, plead guilty, and was sentenced. The witch hunt drum beat keeps getting softer but keep pounding.

Using Martha Stewart as an example and calling them the same.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I don't read anything into the sentence, one way or the other.

However, Trump should pay close attention to the judge's comment that its time to send a message to those who might lie to the FBI.

I did. Obvious nothing burger there. No cooperation agreement and a slap on the wrist.

And on the bolded part I’m assuming that holds true for Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Rice, Lynch, and Hillary also right?

 

[Mick]

I don't read anything into the sentence, one way or the other.

However, Trump should pay close attention to the judge's comment that its time to send a message to those who might lie to the FBI.

I view him as a small fish and it sets a baseline for the bottom for future sentencing.

 

[hog88]

I did. Obvious nothing burger there. No cooperation agreement and a slap on the wrist.

And on the bolded part I’m assuming that holds true for Brennan, Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Rice, Lynch, and Hillary also right?

Those are different!

 

[LouderVol]

Manforts 1st trial is scheduled for July, want to bet Muller asks for a postponement?

I would put money down on him asking for a postponement. although an August date might be good enough for what they need. and if he does that would be a YUGE signal to me.

 

[hog88]

You are trying to make it out to be a major waste of time to prosecute him. It was not a waste, he lied, was charged, plead guilty, and was sentenced. The witch hunt drum beat keeps getting softer but keep pounding.

Using Martha Stewart as an example and calling them the same.

It was a major waste of time, even though he plead guilty I would wager that his prosecution cost the taxpayers more than 20k. How is that an acceptable ROI in your eyes?

 

[hog88]

I would put money down on him asking for a postponement. although an August date might be good enough for what they need. and if he does that would be a YUGE signal to me.

If he asks for a postponement it will be after the midterms or even into 2019 before a trial would start. A postponement means Muller is worried and NFW his masters want to take the chance of an acquittal prior to the midterms.

 

[LouderVol]

You are trying to make it out to be a major waste of time to prosecute him. It was not a waste, he lied, was charged, plead guilty, and was sentenced. The witch hunt drum beat keeps getting softer but keep pounding.

Using Martha Stewart as an example and calling them the same.

lol. this is the exact definition of a witch hunt. (this sentencing). before this investigation this lawyer was not guilty of anything. or at least it hasn't been proven.

again this is like Babe Ruth pointing over the rear wall and bunting down the third base line.

 

[lawgator1]

I view him as a small fish and it sets a baseline for the bottom for future sentencing.

Depends. This was one count based on one lie to the FBI.

If Trump lies to them, it will be repeatedly and for the purpose of covering up very serious misconduct by him. His sentence would be far greater.

But that is assuming Trump lies. Maybe he won't. Maybe he will tell the truth. Anything is possible.

 

[LouderVol]

If he asks for a postponement it will be after the midterms or even into 2019 before a trial would start. A postponement means Muller is worried and NFW his masters want to take the chance of an acquittal prior to the midterms.

I have no idea how quickly these trials would go. I would hope after all this time Mueller could survive the opening salvos when the rubber meets the road.

 

[NorthDallas40]

So again. What investigation definition was Muller acting on from May 2016 till August 2016?

It’s gonna be really interesting to see the full version of that memo to see who is implicated and when information to look at them was brought forward.

Rosenstein overstepped and later tried to cover his over exposed butt.

 

[Septic]

So again. What investigation definition was Muller acting on from May 2016 till August 2016?

It’s gonna be really interesting to see the full version of that memo to see who is implicated and when information to look at them was brought forward.

Rosenstein overstepped and later tried to cover his over exposed butt.

History will be kind to Rosenstien and Comey. :yes:

 

[Mick]

Depends. This was one count based on one lie to the FBI.

If Trump lies to them, it will be repeatedly and for the purpose of covering up very serious misconduct by him. His sentence would be far greater.

But that is assuming Trump lies. Maybe he won't. Maybe he will tell the truth. Anything is possible.

Trump will fight tooth and nail to keep from testifying. You know if he would just tell the truth about Russia and how he was used and manipulated I would let the whole thing slide and show some empathy for him.

 

[Vol0725]

Trump will fight tooth and nail to keep from testifying. You know if he would just tell the truth about Russia and how he was used and manipulated I would let the whole thing slide and show some empathy for him.

You do realize the Trump-Russia collusion is a made up story, pushed by the anti-Trump community and purveyed by the Russians to use and manipulate you?

If you’d just acknowledge the remote ‘possibility’, I’ll have some empathy for you.