TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

So nothing from the Don Jr. meeting - check

Your speculation is that Team Trump had something to do with Wikileaks but you don't know what they did - check

Who's gone full retard?

Now on to Clinton which parts are not true?


Clinton has her own thread and when you spew the "debunked dossier" I will ask what has been debunked in the dossier? Not verified does not mean proven false. keep that in mind. My speculation is team Trump had a lot to do with Russia and more and more evidence comes to light all the time proving that to be true. Russia is the string puller for Wikileaks and if you don't believe that then you would be wrong.

So you're going to continue to ride the "witch hunt" "fake dossier" train, you will be derailed by Mueller and evidence.

Trump Tower meeting happened and it wasn't on the up and up as you want to believe.
 
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Clinton has her own thread and when you spew the "debunked dossier" I will ask what has been debunked in the dossier? Not verified does not mean proven false. keep that in mind. My speculation is team Trump had a lot to do with Russia and more and more evidence comes to light all the time proving that to be true. Russia is the string puller for Wikileaks and if you don't believe that then you would be wrong.

So you're going to continue to ride the "witch hunt" "fake dossier" train, you will be derailed by Mueller and evidence.

Trump Tower meeting happened and it wasn't on the up and up as you want to believe.

Do you have a poster of Muller hanging above your bed?
 
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More deflection. Trumplestilskin approves.


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As the saying goes; they’re guilty of what they accuse you of
 
Clinton has her own thread and when you spew the "debunked dossier" I will ask what has been debunked in the dossier? Not verified does not mean proven false. keep that in mind. My speculation is team Trump had a lot to do with Russia and more and more evidence comes to light all the time proving that to be true. Russia is the string puller for Wikileaks and if you don't believe that then you would be wrong.

So you're going to continue to ride the "witch hunt" "fake dossier" train, you will be derailed by Mueller and evidence.

Trump Tower meeting happened and it wasn't on the up and up as you want to believe.

I don't want to believe anything - I'm going on what's been reported. You apparently want to believe it wasn't on the up and up but can provide no reporting to back up your belief.

At a minimum some claims of meetings have been debunked since the supposed person doing the meeting was not in Russia at the claimed time of said meetings.

What you haven't addressed

1) Steele sourced information directly from the Russian government

2) Clinton and the DNC paid Steele to do so.

At a minimum even if everything in the dossier were true Clinton received "something of value" from a foreign government to help in the election.

3) We know at least some of the information has been debunked.

4) We know some of the information is unverified (or at least through current testimony and reporting).

5) We know the dossier information was used in the investigation and the investigation was leaked to the public prior to the election.

6) We know that Clinton surrogates (Blumenthal and some one else I can't remember) fed Steele info for his second dossier (after the FBI dumped him) through the Obama State Department.

You lose all credibility when you fail to acknowledge the problems associated with the sourcing and use of the dossier.
 
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Wonder how those emails were discovered?

Seriously I think Awan hacked them from the inside. Give me free reign on someones computer and I can find out a lot about them including passwords, emails and encrypted file transfers.
 
"The back-channel proposal offered a pathway for resolving the Ukrainian dispute that could have led to the lifting of U.S. sanctions on Russia and given Putin a prize he has long sought — undisputed control over Crimea, territory that Russia seized in 2014.

The plan was presented to Cohen a few weeks after then-national security adviser Michael Flynn was heard in an intercepted phone call telling the Russian ambassador that the Trump administration would roll back sanctions imposed by the Obama administration intended to punish Moscow for interfering in the 2016 election."

Follow the money to obstruction and treason.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...8e748f892c0_story.html?utm_term=.c67e94c577b8
 
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I’m pretty unbiased on Wikileaks. Not sure what I think about them in general.
But have they ever been proven to lie or be wrong? I honestly don’t know.

[twitter]970914476211036160[/twitter]
 
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I don't want to believe anything - I'm going on what's been reported. You apparently want to believe it wasn't on the up and up but can provide no reporting to back up your belief.

At a minimum some claims of meetings have been debunked since the supposed person doing the meeting was not in Russia at the claimed time of said meetings.

Going to stop you there. Seems there is a disconnect between saying proven false dossier and being to point out anything that has been "debunked".
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...8e748f892c0_story.html?utm_term=.24aa161a5514

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has requested documents and interviewed witnesses about incidents involving Michael Cohen, the longtime lawyer for President Trump whose wide-ranging portfolio has given him a unique vantage point into Trump’s business, campaign and political activities.

One area of focus has been negotiations Cohen undertook during the campaign to help the Trump Organization build a tower in Moscow. Cohen brought Trump a letter of intent in October 2015 from a Russian developer to build a Moscow project. Later, he sent an email to Russian President Vladi*mir Putin’s chief spokesman seeking help to advance the stalled project. He said he did not recall receiving a response.
 
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Going to stop you there. Seems there is a disconnect between saying proven false dossier and being to point out anything that has been "debunked".

I don't recall saying it's been proven false. I have said parts have been debunked and that it remains unverified.

I understand why you want to stop right there so you don't have to address what we do know about the sourcing and usage of the dossier.

Keep on deflecting
 
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I’m pretty unbiased on Wikileaks. Not sure what I think about them in general.
But have they ever been proven to lie or be wrong? I honestly don’t know.

[twitter]970914476211036160[/twitter]

They traced the public IP's of the Wikileaks servers to Public IP's in Russia.
 
I don't recall saying it's been proven false. I have said parts have been debunked and that it remains unverified.

I understand why you want to stop right there so you don't have to address what we do know about the sourcing and usage of the dossier.

Keep on deflecting

What has been debunked? Page meeting in Russia? No it happened. I have not seen anything debunked. A detail or two about parts of it may be off but that is a far cry from debunked. Point to an example. Debunked is a strong word when you try to use it to describe the dossier.
 
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It’s comical. A 5th grader can spoof a IP address.

Not that the cia admitted that they can and do it as well.

That’s true...I was being sarcastic to not go down the complex rabbit hole. Long story short, you are correct.
 

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