#BoycottNRA

[hog88]

Youre not going to get someone you intend to charge with murdering federal cops to surrender in Texas. The adult men there knew theyd likely face the death penalty.

Koresh should have sent the kids out.

They didn't kill anyone until they were attacked.

 

[midnight orange]

What if someone feels they can safely drive 60 through a school zone and endanger no one. Should that have that right if that is how they feel?

Rights are not feelings.

 

[apevol]

They didn't kill anyone until they were attacked.

The FBI never admitted if they fired first or not.

Once those agents died, the men in that building were doomed.

They shouldn't have done the raid.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Freedom of choice must sometimes be restricted for the greater good.

That needs to be on a bumper sticker.

 

[hog88]

The FBI never admitted if they fired first or not.

Once those agents died, the men in that building were doomed.

They shouldn't have done the raid.

My point.

 

[midnight orange]

That needs to be on a bumper sticker.

The greater good is why those greedy wheat farmers had to be murdered in the Ukraine for hoarding. And by hoarding I mean processing less than enough for a meal.

 

[luthervol]

Speeding in school zones puts other people in danger. Me owning an AR-15 doesn't.

That sounds like an opinion. How about people who feel a safe speed limit would be 30 mph in school zone. Did someone else have the right to define what was safe and then make that individual adhere to that law even though they did not agree that it was necessary?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

When kids are involved, second amendment and God take a backseat.

Another bumper sticker...

 

[luthervol]

That needs to be on a bumper sticker.

It's a universally recognized truth. Sometimes the obvious does make for a good bumper sticker.

 

[tumscalcium]

Have you ever witnessed someone breaking the speed limit?

You’ve just triggered him

 

[evillawyer]

You have to be a really clever lawyer to argue using the 5th Amendment to circumvent the 2nd Amendment.

Again, never litigated in this area, but there's a fair amount of case law, per the article, saying that making certain weapons illegal which had been previously legal, is not a taking, even if those weapons have to be destroyed. So takings clause isn't even in play it sounds like.

 

[luthervol]

Doubling down of dumb huh?

Just being forced to use a dumbed down analogy so you guys may be able to see the holes in your arguments.

 

[Obsessed]

It's a universally recognized truth. Sometimes the obvious does make for a good bumper sticker.

Luther,
I’m going to pay for 5 VN members a 1 year membership to the NRA in your honor buddy...

 

[volfanhill]

That sounds like an opinion. How about people who feel a safe speed limit would be 30 mph in school zone. Did someone else have the right to define what was safe and then make that individual adhere to that law even though they did not agree that it was necessary?

You don’t have a right to drive

 

[OuterBanksVol]

Then what will be the consequences?

Ever hear of civil disobedience?

This would be massive.

Our courts and prisons couldn't handle it, if any arrests/prosecutions were made.

The Aussies are a rough and tumble lot. Yet it worked for them. For the umpteenth time, you don't need your assault weapon, bump stocks and large magazines.

 

[hog88]

That sounds like an opinion. How about people who feel a safe speed limit would be 30 mph in school zone. Did someone else have the right to define what was safe and then make that individual adhere to that law even though they did not agree that it was necessary?

Speed limits are not determined by feelings. There is actual science and statistics (debatable science) behind speed limits. Feelings should NEVER be taken into account when passing law.

 

[luthervol]

Youre not going to get someone you intend to charge with murdering federal cops to surrender in Texas. The adult men there knew theyd likely face the death penalty.

Koresh should have sent the kids out.

He knowingly and willfully held them as a shield. The deaths lie solely on Koresh.

 

[Grand Vol]

He knowingly and willfully held them as a shield. The deaths lie solely on Koresh.

Might want to read up...

 

[hog88]

Just being forced to use a dumbed down analogy so you guys may be able to see the holes in your arguments.

One could sail an aircraft carrier through your argument.

 

[37L1]

The Aussies are a rough and tumble lot. Yet it worked for them. For the umpteenth time, you don't need your assault weapon, bump stocks and large magazines.

Need has nothing to do with it. Since when has "need" been the arbiter of anything?

Millions more Americans than Australians own semi-automatic firearms. Try taking them from them and see what a mess looks like.

The civil disobedience will overwhelm the system.

 

[luthervol]

Rights are not feelings.

So you have no answer?

 

[apevol]

My point.

I'd forgotten how close Clinton was to losing his grip on america back then until recently.

Mcveigh single handedly destroyed all the momentum and sentiment that he thought he was a part of

 

[Grand Vol]

One could sail an aircraft carrier through your argument.

We talking a Nimitz Class or one of those jeep carriers from WWII?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Need has nothing to do with it.

Millions more Americans than Australians own semi-automatic firearms. Try taking them from them and see what a mess looks like.

The civil disobedience will overwhelm the system.

Plus. Well. He was wrong in his conclusion.

Man I need to get some work done.

 

[Vol0725]