Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

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hog88 said:
Oh, I thought we were going to have a discussion.
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In a previous post, you were giving your opinion as to why more people are being prescribed, not the fact that more anti-depressants are being prescribed. I simply stated you are nowhere near qualified to assess as to why.

That and the dumb notion you have that it should be easier to buy guns. You still haven't come remotely close to making any sort of intelligent argument as to why you have chosen such foolish beliefs
 
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hog88 said:
You mentioned earlier that you are 70? If that’s true then you remember being able to purchase a semi- automatic rife from a catalog and have it delivered to your house for $150-$200. No background check required.

So tell me again about the availability of firearms being the problem today.
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IIRC, you could buy army surplus M1 Carbines for a lot less than that.
 
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hog88 said:
Fact - prescriptions of ADHD and anti-depressants have sky rocketed since the late 90s.

Fact - almost every killer in the mass attacks were on or at one time on these drugs.

Now your turn.
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Not sure why no one is talking about this reality.

Is big pharma that powerful?

OR..is it the talking heads on tv themselves are so doped up on their meds they refuse to admit they might be a problem? (<-- the right answer)
 
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
Limiting the availability of semi-automatic rifles and high-capacity magazines (explain to me why it is necessary for people to have the right to own these) will most certainly reshape the effectiveness of mass shootings. I don't see it as THE solution, I see it as a part of the solution.

I am going to my neighborhood sports bar to watch the UT basketball game. I'm done discussing this.
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Because it's our constitutional right to own them. The people need to be well armed to make our government fear us.
 
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hog88 said:
Fact - prescriptions of ADHD and anti-depressants have sky rocketed since the late 90s.

Fact - almost every killer in the mass attacks were on or at one time on these drugs.

Now your turn.
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...and every one of the killers looks crazy in the eyes.
 
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luthervol said:
I don't know what we're debating, but I'll jump in. I think that 10% (at most) of the children being prescribed drugs actually may need them.

The other 90% is a get rich scheme for doctors and pharma.
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I agree except for the 10%. The 90% that are prescribed need parenting, and the 10% need to be in an institution.
 
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hog88 said:
Ok, we are in agreement on this. So before we start stripping rights from people shouldn’t we look at the root cause and work from there?
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The gun issues go way beyond mass killings. But of course the long term effects of this unnecessary medications need much greater considerations. This will move us in to a health care / big pharma debate. My views on that are also known and would go a long way of addressing this "root" cause. But nobody likes those views either.
 
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Of the 20 mass shootings with the most fatalities in US history, 3 happened in 2009 when the Dems had a filibuster proof majority. 2009 is the only year that had 3 of the Top 20.

The Dems can get off their high horse about gun control....The Dems have just as much blood on their hands as the NRA...
 
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1972 Grad said:
As a Monday morning quarterback, they should have gone in and shot him.
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This is Luther’s other obvious play in addition to sleighting attacks on the debater. He’s trying to shift the burden of proof.

Let him justify his own positions instead of us making his points for him.

“ oh I don’t know anything about these gun thingies so why don’t you tell me what I should do”. Voila you’ve taken on his burden for him.

Make him prove his own damn points. He has the burden.

Edit: and yeah that would have been the best spent cartridge in FLA that day too.
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Of the 20 mass shootings with the most fatalities in US history, 3 happened in 2009 when the Dems had a filibuster proof majority. 2009 is the only year that had 3 of the Top 20.

The Dems can get off their high horse about gun control....The Dems have just as much blood on their hands as the NRA...
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First, you are correct that the NRA has also had it's fair share of Dems bought and paid for. They get no pass, either.

Second, however, your point about a particular year is rather silly since any change to gun laws, if there was one, would take quite awhile to take effect.
 
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