Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

[lawgator1]

The whole country should be slamming the FBI.

Trumps tweet is the most obnoxious thing I believe I have ever seen. He's such a cheap, narcissistic jerk.

 

[AirVol]

Trumps tweet is the most obnoxious thing I believe I have ever seen. He's such a cheap, narcissistic jerk.

Awww peaches, hurt your sensitive feelings?

 

[tumscalcium]

Trumps tweet is the most obnoxious thing I believe I have ever seen. He's such a cheap, narcissistic jerk.

His tweet was dumb, I agree.

 

[Biopsyman]

Florida lawmakers introduces bill to ban on assault-style weapons | WEAR

:good!:

Means nothing.. You can not legislate human behavior

 

[114VOL]

I find it interesting than none of our resident liberals will even discuss the subject.

I'll discuss it with you. Before hand, you'll need to read much more and spend your time researching factual data.

 

[NorthDallas40]

In 2009, we wrote an Ask FactCheck item for readers who wanted to know, “Did gun control in Australia lead to more murders there last year?” The answer at the time was “no,” and that’s still the case.

In fact, the most recent government report on crime trends in Australia says, “Homicide in Australia has declined over the last 25 years. The current homicide incidence rate is the lowest on record in the past 25 years.”

Gun Control in Australia, Updated - FactCheck.org

I posted this earlier. Here’s our data related to mass shootings. And let’s talk about inner city gun violence in places like Chicago?

Our own data states as sourced by the FBI and presented by this professor that gun violence in the US is neither increasing or decreasing its flat. And on an interview with Tapper while these episodes are tragic they have no significant impact on the whole statistics. When asked what it would take to reduce gun violence he didn’t mince words. No selective ban, it would be all or nothing. And he of course stated culturally we chose to not do that.

In other words we as a people will not do what he thinks it would take to significantly impact gun violence. And that action is the lib agenda, disarmament of the civilian population.

And finally before I go try to be productive today here is an excerpt in comparing Australia to America from BBC Sydney.

The big question

So could it work in the US?

The simple answer is - probably not.

Although Australia does have a long history of hunting and sport, there is no equivalent to America's Second Amendment right to bear arms here.

Another significant difference is the speed of government action. In 1996 John Howard managed to get all six Australian states to agree to and pass uniform sweeping gun control legislation in just 12 days.

It is hard to fathom the US government ever being able to get all 50 states to agree to something, let alone act that quickly.

Image copyright GETTY IMAGES A plaque on on the Port Arthur memorial site is seen during a commemoration service to mark the 10th anniversary of the massacre 28 April 2006 in Port Arthur, Australia
Image caption The massacre was said to have been the "straw that broke the camel's back"
But according to Prof Alpers, the bigger difference is the cultural mindset.

"I don't for a moment think it would happen in the US," he says. "Australia already had a pre-disposition to doing something about it."

 

[Vol8188]

In 2009, we wrote an Ask FactCheck item for readers who wanted to know, “Did gun control in Australia lead to more murders there last year?” The answer at the time was “no,” and that’s still the case.

In fact, the most recent government report on crime trends in Australia says, “Homicide in Australia has declined over the last 25 years. The current homicide incidence rate is the lowest on record in the past 25 years.”

Gun Control in Australia, Updated - FactCheck.org

What are your thoughts on Switzerland? Lower homicide rate than Australia, France, etc, but gun laws more similar to our own.

 

[37L1]

Florida lawmakers introduces bill to ban on assault-style weapons | WEAR

:good!:

This was from January, 2017 after the Pulse Nightclub shooting.

Do you even read the stuff you link to?

 

[Vol8188]

In 2009, we wrote an Ask FactCheck item for readers who wanted to know, “Did gun control in Australia lead to more murders there last year?” The answer at the time was “no,” and that’s still the case.

In fact, the most recent government report on crime trends in Australia says, “Homicide in Australia has declined over the last 25 years. The current homicide incidence rate is the lowest on record in the past 25 years.”

Gun Control in Australia, Updated - FactCheck.org

Since Australia’s ban, homicide rates across the entire world have been going down. To include in the US. Despite no radical changes in law. You’re mistaking correlation for causation.

 

[luthervol]

Oh they were corrected before you made this post and you wouldn't know a logical fallacy from a Tapco lower. You have no argument here anymore. You've been shown to be a politically motivated hack. Either admit your political agenda or admit you are a troll.

What an absolute bore.

When have I ever tried to hide the fact that I was for increased gun control and regulation. Here's your answer, NEVER. It's the gun nuts that are having the internal struggle of trying to justify their petty protection of gun rights when 17 innocent people are bein mourned.

 

[luthervol]

Our Republican President is the first President to support gay marriage while on the campaign trail. You can find videos of obama and Hillary both saying marriage is between a man and a woman.

That proves nothing other than how as a society we have continued to move left. That has always been the trend and always will be. In most ways (especially socially and science based) a republican is just a democrat from 30 -
50 years ago.

 

[luthervol]

But you drank as a 17 year old.

Only a little. The fact that it was illegal was a great deterrent.

 

[luthervol]

The whole country should be slamming the FBI.

If the FBI would have reacted perfectly, what do you think they should have done?

 

[hog88]

I'll discuss it with you. Before hand, you'll need to read much more and spend your time researching factual data.

Fact - prescriptions of ADHD and anti-depressants have sky rocketed since the late 90s.

Fact - almost every killer in the mass attacks were on or at one time on these drugs.

Now your turn.

 

[37L1]

What an absolute bore.

When have I ever tried to hide the fact that I was for increased gun control and regulation. Here's your answer, NEVER. It's the gun nuts that are having the internal struggle of trying to justify their petty protection of gun rights when 17 innocent people are bein mourned.

How long did your mourn them before jumping up and down on your political "ban" wagon? A nanosecond?

 

[NorthDallas40]

What an absolute bore.

When have I ever tried to hide the fact that I was for increased gun control and regulation. Here's your answer, NEVER. It's the gun nuts that are having the internal struggle of trying to justify their petty protection of gun rights when 17 innocent people are bein mourned.

Nope. It’s you that are using an emotional situation to further your agenda of disarmament which we already have 10 years of data that says it didn’t work so yeah NEVER.

And the real bore is your continued use of ad hominem attacks. Get a new playbook. You don’t have a valid stance so just attack the debater. U Lose!!!

 

[NorthDallas40]

If the FBI would have reacted perfectly, what do you think they should have done?

You’re the one trying to convince us. So convince us and stop trying to get us to make your argument for you.

 

[114VOL]

Fact - prescriptions of ADHD and anti-depressants have sky rocketed since the late 90s.

Fact - almost every killer in the mass attacks were on or at one time on these drugs.

Now your turn.

LOL...doesn't matter. Your stance is that guns should be easier to purchase. This data suggests otherwise

 

[NorthDallas40]

Only a little. The fact that it was illegal was a great deterrent.

And yet you still broke the law. But it will be totally different with criminals and guns.

 

[luthervol]

Fact - prescriptions of ADHD and anti-depressants have sky rocketed since the late 90s.

Fact - almost every killer in the mass attacks were on or at one time on these drugs.

Now your turn.

I don't know what we're debating, but I'll jump in. I think that 10% (at most) of the children being prescribed drugs actually may need them.

The other 90% is a get rich scheme for doctors and pharma.

 

[hog88]

LOL...doesn't matter. Your stance is that guns should be easier to purchase. This data suggests otherwise

Oh, I thought we were going to have a discussion.

 

[hog88]

I don't know what we're debating, but I'll jump in. I think that 10% (at most) of the children being prescribed drugs actually may need them.

The other 90% is a get rich scheme for doctors and pharma.

Ok, we are in agreement on this. So before we start stripping rights from people shouldn’t we look at the root cause and work from there?

 

[DancingOutlaw]

I don't know what we're debating, but I'll jump in. I think that 10% (at most) of the children being prescribed drugs actually may need them.

The other 90% is a get rich scheme for doctors and pharma.

So 90% of kids on psychotropics don't need them? Wonder what the consequences are for long term use of a mind altering drug that you don't need?

 

[OuterBanksVol]

Means nothing.. You can not legislate human behavior

Really? You pay your taxes voluntarily, huh?

 

[tumscalcium]

Really? You pay your taxes voluntarily, huh?

Withholding.