Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

[golfballs]

Florida gunman at his first court appearance | Daily Mail Online

His public defender put her arm around him to comfort him as he confessed? Wtf?

 

[GoDucks349]

Mandatory interlock devices on every car would save more lives than any new gun law. Interested?

If it will protect innocent Americans of course. Do you have a specific bill you are promoting for these devices. I'd love to learn about your ideas on protecting Americans. Thanks, I wasn't really aware of this issue or the benefits.

 

[FLVOL_79]

More strict gun laws wont stop these shootings/mass killings.





Earth to McFly! Nothing will.

 

[FLVOL_79]

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Concealed carry shotgun or rifle?

Scary!

You can't conceal carry a howitzer either!! CNN jumps the shark yet again.

When you buy a gun in Florida from a dealer you fill out a form for a background check. Then the records of your weapon sale are kept with the dealer. This is no "list" per say like libtardopia NY but there is still a record. I bought a shotgun a few years ago. Filled out a form, waited 10 minutes as it was sent to the FBI's system, handed by gun, and conceal carried it in a box to my car.

 

[OuterBanksVol]

AR-15s are not assault rifles. You’ve already lost.

There's no fixing stupid. Meanwhile, here on planet Earth...

WaPo:

"But here is the key fact: This country has no monopoly on troubled young men. We have no monopoly on hate groups. We aren’t the only place where people miss signs of danger in troubled young men. What distinguishes the United States from the developed world is our open market in the weaponry of war — in weapons whose chief purpose and selling point is their obscene ability to kill as many people as possible in the shortest burst of time.

Is it any surprise that the weapon used in this week’s carnage was the same style of semiautomatic assault rifle that was used with deadly efficiency at a concert in Las Vegas, a Texas church, an Orlando nightclub, a Connecticut elementary school? These weapons designed for combat, accompanied by multiple ammunition magazines, have become the weapons of choice for mass shooters. It is time for a national ban on their sale and possession. Now, before the next set of parents face the unimaginable agony of the phone call that never gets answered."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-card-e:homepage/story&utm_term=.402c7aa88e2a

 

[TheDeeble]

It is time for a national ban on their sale and possession.

How are you going to go about that?

The US can't keep illegal immigrants from coming over here. Can't keep illegal drugs from being sold or possessed. How are you going to eliminate millions of firearms already legally owned. Just tell millions of Americans you're a felon now?

 

[davethevol]

How are you going to go about that?

The US can't keep illegal immigrants from coming over here. Can't keep illegal drugs from being sold or possessed. How are you going to eliminate millions of firearms already legally owned. Just tell millions of Americans you're a felon now?

He has ideas in line with Hitler’s. You can’t rarionalize with crazy.

 

[Squints]

There's no fixing stupid. Meanwhile, here on planet Earth...

WaPo:

"But here is the key fact: This country has no monopoly on troubled young men. We have no monopoly on hate groups. We aren’t the only place where people miss signs of danger in troubled young men. What distinguishes the United States from the developed world is our open market in the weaponry of war — in weapons whose chief purpose and selling point is their obscene ability to kill as many people as possible in the shortest burst of time.

Is it any surprise that the weapon used in this week’s carnage was the same style of semiautomatic assault rifle that was used with deadly efficiency at a concert in Las Vegas, a Texas church, an Orlando nightclub, a Connecticut elementary school? These weapons designed for combat, accompanied by multiple ammunition magazines, have become the weapons of choice for mass shooters. It is time for a national ban on their sale and possession. Now, before the next set of parents face the unimaginable agony of the phone call that never gets answered."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-card-e:homepage/story&utm_term=.402c7aa88e2a

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Posting WaPo opinion pieces and bolding what you think to be important doesn’t make you right.

Learn what “assault rifle” means.

 

[luthervol]

Or it would cause a gigantic boom in black market trade. Are you kidding?

I mean, really.

We learned nothing from prohibition?

You'd just be making incredibly horrible human beings more powerful.

The logical extension of your argument would be no type of gun should be banned and the types that have been banned should be immediately legalized so we can avoid the black market boogeymen.

 

[hog88]

That is absolutely an apples and oranges comparison. The patriot act and my suggestion are completely different.

Granted both are intended to make America safer for our families and friends. Of course if you are oppose to a safer America, tell me what you'd propose rather than just making an unconstructive statement.

I’m opposed to giving up freedom in exchange for safety.

The availability of guns and type of guns isn’t our problem. I’ve shared my thoughts about what the root cause is and like every one else that thinks more regulation is needed you’ve ignored them.

 

[hog88]

There's no fixing stupid. Meanwhile, here on planet Earth...

WaPo:

"But here is the key fact: This country has no monopoly on troubled young men. We have no monopoly on hate groups. We aren’t the only place where people miss signs of danger in troubled young men. What distinguishes the United States from the developed world is our open market in the weaponry of war — in weapons whose chief purpose and selling point is their obscene ability to kill as many people as possible in the shortest burst of time.

Is it any surprise that the weapon used in this week’s carnage was the same style of semiautomatic assault rifle that was used with deadly efficiency at a concert in Las Vegas, a Texas church, an Orlando nightclub, a Connecticut elementary school? These weapons designed for combat, accompanied by multiple ammunition magazines, have become the weapons of choice for mass shooters. It is time for a national ban on their sale and possession. Now, before the next set of parents face the unimaginable agony of the phone call that never gets answered."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-card-e:homepage/story&utm_term=.402c7aa88e2a

Yep, I agree. Stupid post.

 

[luthervol]

I’m opposed to giving up freedom in exchange for safety.

The availability of guns and type of guns isn’t our problem. I’ve shared my thoughts about what the root cause is and like every one else that thinks more regulation is needed you’ve ignored them.

Do you ever lock the doors of your home. Do you wear a seat belt? Do you ever make wise choices in your diet? Do you support and abide by speed limits? Do you slow down in a school zone?

 

[OuterBanksVol]

How are you going to go about that?

The US can't keep illegal immigrants from coming over here. Can't keep illegal drugs from being sold or possessed. How are you going to eliminate millions of firearms already legally owned. Just tell millions of Americans you're a felon now?

Gun buyback.

"...the Australian government “banned automatic and semiautomatic firearms, adopted new licensing requirements, established a national firearms registry, and instituted a 28-day waiting period for gun purchases. It also bought and destroyed more than 600,000 civilian-owned firearms, in a scheme that cost half a billion dollars and was funded by raising taxes.” The entire overhaul, Friedman pointed out, took just months to implement."

"...The number of mass shootings in Australia—defined as incidents in which a gunman killed five or more people other than himself, which is notably a higher casualty count than is generally applied for tallying mass shootings in the U.S.—dropped from 13 in the 18-year period before 1996 to zero after the Port Arthur massacre. Between 1995 and 2006, gun-related homicides and suicides in the country dropped by 59 percent and 65 percent, respectively, though these declines appear to have since leveled off. Two academics who have studied the impact of the reform initiative estimate that the gun-buyback program saves at least 200 lives each year, according to The New York Times."

How Australia Restricted Guns After a 1996 Massacre - The Atlantic

 

[luthervol]

Let's get something straight, I'm an AMERICAN, my family came to this continent in 1626, my great great grandfather fought in the Civil War, my grandfather fought in WWI, my father fought in Patton's army in WWII and survived the battle of the bulge with a few wounds. As for me I was the slacker, I served during the Vietnam War, I achieved the rank of SSGT and I was one of the few people in my squadron with clearance to make napalm.

So when some one assumes I'm a "liberal" as a way of making a derogatory comment, lets just say that I "assume" that person isn't really qualified to judge my patriotism or character.

I guess you've picked up on the differences in social consciousness between the typical Oregonian and the typical southerner. It's fascinating. And I'm a life long southerner (many times to my embarrassment).

 

[hog88]

Do you ever lock the doors of your home. Do you wear a seat belt? Do you ever make wise choices in your diet? Do you support and abide by speed limits? Do you slow down in a school zone?

Annnnnnnnnd WTF does any of that have to do with this conversation?

 

[OuterBanksVol]

He has ideas in line with Hitler’s. You can’t rarionalize with crazy.

What an ignorant thing to say. Most countries don't permit assault rifles.

What's "crazy" is continuing to idly sit on our hands while people - kids in this instance - are gunned down by weapons that should only belong to our military.

Overview of gun laws by nation - Wikipedia

 

[hog88]

Gun buyback.

"...the Australian government “banned automatic and semiautomatic firearms, adopted new licensing requirements, established a national firearms registry, and instituted a 28-day waiting period for gun purchases. It also bought and destroyed more than 600,000 civilian-owned firearms, in a scheme that cost half a billion dollars and was funded by raising taxes.” The entire overhaul, Friedman pointed out, took just months to implement."

"...The number of mass shootings in Australia—defined as incidents in which a gunman killed five or more people other than himself, which is notably a higher casualty count than is generally applied for tallying mass shootings in the U.S.—dropped from 13 in the 18-year period before 1996 to zero after the Port Arthur massacre. Between 1995 and 2006, gun-related homicides and suicides in the country dropped by 59 percent and 65 percent, respectively, though these declines appear to have since leveled off. Two academics who have studied the impact of the reform initiative estimate that the gun-buyback program saves at least 200 lives each year, according to The New York Times."

How Australia Restricted Guns After a 1996 Massacre - The Atlantic

Yet violent crime, especially home invasion has skyrocketed. Correlation?

 

[hog88]

What an ignorant thing to say. Most countries don't permit assault rifles.

What's "crazy" is continuing to idly sit on our hands while people - kids in this instance - are gunned down by weapons that should only belong to our military.

Overview of gun laws by nation - Wikipedia

We don’t permit them either. Well you have to have a special tax stamp to buy them.

 

[OuterBanksVol]

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Posting WaPo opinion pieces and bolding what you think to be important doesn’t make you right.

Learn what “assault rifle” means.

What's "wrong"? Your post is pure bluster.

"An assault rifle is a selective-fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine."

Assault rifle - Wikipedia

 

[Grand Vol]

Let's get something straight, I'm an AMERICAN, my family came to this continent in 1626, my great great grandfather fought in the Civil War, my grandfather fought in WWI, my father fought in Patton's army in WWII and survived the battle of the bulge with a few wounds. As for me I was the slacker, I served during the Vietnam War, I achieved the rank of SSGT and I was one of the few people in my squadron with clearance to make napalm.

So when some one assumes I'm a "liberal" as a way of making a derogatory comment, lets just say that I "assume" that person isn't really qualified to judge my patriotism or character.

If you want to play stats, by all means. My family came to this continent in 1620 on the Mayflower, fought in the Revolution, the Civil War, Spanish-American War, WWI, both Grandfathers in WWII to include one that went into North Africa with Operation Torch and didn't come home until Germany surrendered and later went back to Korea where he earned his second purple heart. Had an uncle in Vietnam that had a price on his head because of the work he did and served my own 20 years in this nation's defense before retiring a few years ago.

Yeah, I'm qualified to make that judgment that your comments were liberal in nature.

 

[Squints]

What an ignorant thing to say. Most countries don't permit assault rifles.

What's "crazy" is continuing to idly sit on our hands while people - kids in this instance - are gunned down by weapons that should only belong to our military.

Overview of gun laws by nation - Wikipedia

Lol.

AR-15s are now considered a machine-class firearm and are fully-automatic?

This is why nothing will ever be accomplished with this debate. Ever.

 

[Grand Vol]

LG, this is why I suggested using locals. They can respond way faster than the FBI.

South Carolina HS student who allegedly posted 'Florida Round 2,' tells cops it was a joke | Fox News

A South Carolina high school student was arrested Thursday after allegedly posting "Florida Round 2" on Snapchat-- an obvious reference to Wednesday's school shooting--but insisted that the post was simply a "joke."

Officials said the post, which was sent via Snapchat, showed a teen wearing a partial mask and holding what looked like an assault rifle. Beneath the photo was the caption, “Round 2 of Florida tomorrow.”

Officials at Broome High School received an anonymous tip from a student about a possible threat, Spartanburg School District Three spokeswoman Sherri Horton said.

The Spartanburg County Sheriff’s Office arrested a ninth grader at the school, according to Fox Carolina.

 

[luthervol]

Annnnnnnnnd WTF does any of that have to do with this conversation?

Duh.......Were we not discussing the balance of freedom vs. safety? How was that not clear?

 

[davethevol]

We don’t permit them either. Well you have to have a special tax stamp to buy them.

He's using (as do all the libtards) rules from Saul Alinsky.

The Rules[edit]
"Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."
"Never go outside the expertise of your people."
"Whenever possible go outside the expertise of the enemy."
"Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
"Ridicule is man's most potent weapon."
"A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
"A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag."
"Keep the pressure on."
"The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."
"The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition."
"If you push a negative hard and deep enough it will break through into its counterside"
"The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."


They don't care that we don't have assault rifles. They will keep calling them that until they reach their goal. Guys like OBV are an enemy to the US and want to impose their tyranny upon us.

 

[Grand Vol]

We don’t permit them either. Well you have to have a special tax stamp to buy them.

I wish you'd stop posting facts. They can be annoying.