Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

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luthervol said:
Because it's amusing to me how easy it is for someone with little knowledge to shoot holes in the arguments of the most hard core gun nuts. Plus it helps me understand how we have devolved to the point we now find ourselves.
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I know you're not talking about yourself, right?
 
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luthervol said:
Because it's amusing to me how easy it is for someone with little knowledge to shoot holes in the arguments of the most hard core gun nuts. Plus it helps me understand how we have devolved to the point we now find ourselves.
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You have done nothing but brought forth the same ole worn out firearm ignorant rhetoric that always comes forth and is ignored due to its lack of substance. And thus the result this time will be exactly the same.
 
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luthervol said:
Because it's amusing to me how easy it is for someone with little knowledge to shoot holes in the arguments of the most hard core gun nuts. Plus it helps me understand how we have devolved to the point we now find ourselves.
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What type of firearm were you using?
 
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luthervol said:
Because it's amusing to me how easy it is for someone with little knowledge to shoot holes in the arguments of the most hard core gun nuts. Plus it helps me understand how we have devolved to the point we now find ourselves.
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When are you going to start shooting holes?

Pun intended.
 
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While it does nothing for weapons already out for the most part I don’t know why biometrics aren’t being pushed by the left. Literally tying a weapon to its owner is a powerful and interesting technology and I’ve always wondered why the left doesn’t push harder on it.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
While it does nothing for weapons already out for the most part I don’t know why biometrics aren’t being pushed by the left. Literally tying a weapon to its owner is a powerful and interesting technology and I’ve always wondered why the left doesn’t push harder on it.
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the left doesn't want them safer. They want them gone.
 
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luthervol said:
See, your gun knowledge is deluding you into thinking that your opinion is correct. How many deer rifles have been used in mass casualty events in the last 5 years? The last thing you desire is a reasonable debate. It's much easier to hide behind your superior knowledge of guns and use that as a basis to convince yourself that your opinions are more valid.
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You seem to be missing a ton. Gun laws have become much stricter in the past 10 years. Yet, we have seen the vast majority of these terrible mass shootings occur while the laws have become more strict. Why?
 
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McDad said:
the left doesn't want them safer. They want them gone.
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For that faction I agree with you. But if any of them want serious debate I’d like to hear proposals on it. If a method to retrofit the technology is found I’d probably pay to do it.

I am 100% for responsible gun ownership and could get behind stuff like this if done correctly. But they just ignore it time after time...🤔
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
For that faction I agree with you. But if any of them want serious debate I’d like to hear proposals on it. If a method to retrofit the technology is found I’d probably pay to do it.

I am 100% for responsible gun ownership and could get behind stuff like this if done correctly. But they just ignore it time after time...🤔
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Would be a good step but it would also have pitfalls.

Very difficult to fix a culture problem with laws and/or technology.
 
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McDad said:
Would be a good step but it would also have pitfalls.

Very difficult to fix a culture problem with laws and/or technology.
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Don’t disagree at all. But hell it should at least be discussed. At least it’s a new approach.

And yeah any technology can be defeated in cases like this. Maybe that’s the reason, in the end it’s added expense with neblible impact. But I see so little on the topic ever brought up.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Don’t disagree at all. But hell it should at least be discussed. At least it’s a new approach.

And yeah any technology can be defeated in cases like this. Maybe that’s the reason, in the end it’s added expense with neblible impact. But I see so little on the topic ever brought up.
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Passions are high right now. Emotion and reason don't occupy the mind st same time.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yet another typical liberal response...

"We need to do SOMETHING!"
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Let's get something straight, I'm an AMERICAN, my family came to this continent in 1626, my great great grandfather fought in the Civil War, my grandfather fought in WWI, my father fought in Patton's army in WWII and survived the battle of the bulge with a few wounds. As for me I was the slacker, I served during the Vietnam War, I achieved the rank of SSGT and I was one of the few people in my squadron with clearance to make napalm.

So when some one assumes I'm a "liberal" as a way of making a derogatory comment, lets just say that I "assume" that person isn't really qualified to judge my patriotism or character.
 
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Mick said:
Why don't you write that check for the victim's families. You are down right deplorable. How does it feel to prove Hillary right?
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^this is the left

If you don’t agree with them on gun control then you are a MONSTER

I did donate to their victims fund.
 
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hog88 said:
Doing something for the sake of doing something got us the Patriot Act.
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That is absolutely an apples and oranges comparison. The patriot act and my suggestion are completely different.

Granted both are intended to make America safer for our families and friends. Of course if you are oppose to a safer America, tell me what you'd propose rather than just making an unconstructive statement.
 
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GoDucks349 said:
That is absolutely an apples and oranges comparison. The patriot act and my suggestion are completely different.

Granted both are intended to make America safer for our families and friends. Of course if you are oppose to a safer America, tell me what you'd propose rather than just making an unconstructive statement.
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Mandatory interlock devices on every car would save more lives than any new gun law. Interested?
 
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luthervol said:
I tried debating this issue with you months age when I first came to the political forum. I realized quickly that my lack of gun knowledge (especially compared to yours) was going to delegitimize my opinions and positions in the minds of most.

Many posters on here have spent lots of time building the case to support their beliefs. There is nothing I, nor anyone else can say to change their opinion.

Off the cuff, I would say ban everything but basic hunting rifles and shotguns. Maybe have some special process that is very well regulated where people can get a handgun. I would ban anything that has the capability of firing multiple rounds in a short period of time. I would put a limit on the number of guns that could be purchased in a given time frame. I know nothing about ammunition, but anything that can penetrate armor should probably be banned. Anything designed to cause great damage to the body (and is not legitimately used for hunting) should probably be banned.
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You could have stopped there
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
While it does nothing for weapons already out for the most part I don’t know why biometrics aren’t being pushed by the left. Literally tying a weapon to its owner is a powerful and interesting technology and I’ve always wondered why the left doesn’t push harder on it.
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Thats fine and dandy. You thing the ones committing the crimes will be tied to the gun?...
 
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Wow, imagine what an assault bayonet would do for this firearm.....

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