Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

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zeppelin128 said:
Share that with GV, apparently Democrats caused all of this somehow.
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Again, the only person or persons responsible for yesterday was the guy pulling the trigger. Not the nra (which I despise btw) not the republicans or democrats or any other political group. It’s the actions of the individual that caused yesterday to happen.
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Where did I call them "weapons of war?" Or say they should be banned. I'll wait.

So it is solely the fault of evil Democrats? Has nothing to do with parenting?
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I'm just using liberal terms you might understand. You don't seem to have the ability to comprehend what I'm saying and keep ignoring the base problem until your last question.

Does it have to do with parenting? Are you honestly going to open your mind to see there is far more than just those hunks of aluminum, wood and steel?
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Again, I will ask what is the difference between other first world countries that don't have several school shootings per month and the USA? The big difference seems to be the access to guns and gun ownership per capita.
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Yes and other countries also don’t have a second amendment.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Again, I will ask what is the difference between other first world countries that don't have several school shootings per month and the USA? The big difference seems to be the access to guns and gun ownership per capita.
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Our forced acceptance of **** cultures and **** people. Each day we’re more and more a cesspool of people.

People are always the problem.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Again, the only person or persons responsible for yesterday was the guy pulling the trigger. Not the nra (which I despise btw) not the republicans or democrats or any other political group. It’s the actions of the individual that caused yesterday to happen.
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We are in complete agreement.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Again, I will ask what is the difference between other first world countries that don't have several school shootings per month and the USA? The big difference seems to be the access to guns and gun ownership per capita.
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Its population size and culture. Violence has always been glorified. This country was founded on and gained its back to back World War Champions status based on violence. Our country nuked civilians not once, but twice. Think about that. This place is still the wild west, just less dust, and less legal prostitution, but better hygiene.

Also we can blame PC culture. No one ever said of these mass shootings "boy we didnt see that coming!". Everyone always knows who the one to snap is...but people are too afraid to "label" or "stereotype" someone..
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Its population size and culture. Violence has always been glorified. This country was founded on and gained its back to back World War Champions status based on violence. Our country nuked civilians not once, but twice. Think about that. This place is still the wild west, just less dust, and less legal prostitution, but better hygiene.

Also we can blame PC culture. No one ever said of these mass shootings "boy we didnt see that coming!". Everyone always knows who the one to snap is...but people are too afraid to "label" or "stereotype" someone..
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Not buying that.
 
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Mick said:
So the second amendment is to blame and the fear of loosing it?
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The second amendment makes the conversations about these issues more sticky for sure. We are constitutionally guaranteed the right to bear arms. Whether liberals like it or not it has been ruled on to mean exactly that by the SC. Any legislative efforts to mitigate these instances has to take that into account. So what are the common sense laws that I keep hearing about that we need that also respect that constitutional right?

Also, scrapping the 2nd Amendment so we can ban all or most guns is about as much of a pipe dream for the left as scrapping Roe v Wade is for the right. Ain't gonna happen.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
What about its a false flag perpetuated by Remington since they are filing bankruptcy and needed to bump up ammo sales to save their company?

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I'm sure someone on Twitter mentioned that lol

The first paragraph is what I feel is incorrect. The second paragraph in your post can be debated.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'll let you in on a secret.

It's not gun ownership.

Here's the list and I took off the obvious ****hole countries where one might expect such things to happen. But here's some "civilized" top 25 countries that don't seem to suffer from the same problem:

Estimated number of guns per capita by country - Wikipedia

Cyprus
Urguay
Norway
France
Canada
Austria
Iceland
Germany
Finland
Switzerland
Macedonia
Australia
Montenegro
New Zealand
Greece
Croatia
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Good stat, GV
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm sure someone on Twitter mentioned that lol

The first paragraph is what I feel is incorrect. The second paragraph in your post can be debated.
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I just feel violence is part of our culture. The US was never conquered by anyone unlike every single European first world country. Without trying to get too philosophical I think that has a big cultural impact.

I also believe that the mass shootings show a blatant failure of the metal healthcare in this country which, in my opinion, stems from people not wanting to call people crazy. The whole "lets medicate and integrate into society" thing. And of course there is terrible parenting that is to blame, fake diseases like ADHD which enable bad parenting and out of control kids.

After this shooting the first thing I thought about was I can without a doubt point a finger at one person at work who would be the one to do something similar. The signs are all there. The arrest records speak for themselves..but no one is going to be proactive..We are a reactive society.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I just feel violence is part of our culture. The US was never conquered by anyone unlike every single European first world country. Without trying to get too philosophical I think that has a big cultural impact.

I also believe that the mass shootings show a blatant failure of the metal healthcare in this country which, in my opinion, stems from people not wanting to call people crazy. The whole "lets medicate and integrate into society" thing. And of course there is terrible parenting that is to blame, fake diseases like ADHD which enable bad parenting and out of control kids.

After this shooting the first thing I thought about was I can without a doubt point a finger at one person at work who would be the one to do something similar. The signs are all there. The arrest records speak for themselves..but no one is going to be proactive..We are a reactive society.
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Excellent post. A lot of these medications being prescribed have horrible side effects too.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Excellent post. A lot of these medications being prescribed have horrible side effects too.
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I dont think there is any real answer. The government could screen people for mental health but how hard is that to cheat? How long do you keep checking people? Forever? Some people just snap.

The shooters online footprint should have been red flags to everyone. This dude was itching to kill. I think he said he "wanted to kill law enforcement and good people"....yeah..

I guess the FBI was too busy with their Russian collusion case to put agents on this one..
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
I just feel violence is part of our culture. The US was never conquered by anyone unlike every single European first world country. Without trying to get too philosophical I think that has a big cultural impact.

I also believe that the mass shootings show a blatant failure of the metal healthcare in this country which, in my opinion, stems from people not wanting to call people crazy. The whole "lets medicate and integrate into society" thing. And of course there is terrible parenting that is to blame, fake diseases like ADHD which enable bad parenting and out of control kids.

After this shooting the first thing I thought about was I can without a doubt point a finger at one person at work who would be the one to do something similar. The signs are all there. The arrest records speak for themselves..but no one is going to be proactive..We are a reactive society.
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Kinda thoughtful for you...

Good points though. And certainly worthy of debate. However, I feel certain mouthbreathers on here like luther, Mick and Zep will ignore it with their fingers in their ears while screaming about AR-15s and magazine capacities.
 
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