Trump refers to immigrants from Haiti and Africa as being from s***hole countries.

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BowlBrother85 said:
Fair enough but it's still missing the point of what makes Trump's comments so inappropriate. Do you feel a prospective immigrant's qualifications for a Visa Program should be evaluated solely on the quality of their place of origin or do you feel an immigrant should be evaluated on such merits as the quality of their education, work experience, English speaking ability, the results of a thorough background check and their willingness to assimilate into American culture? Trump's comments were not only crude but narrow minded.
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You’re so close with the bold. You put everything out there, you just need to see how the second part lines up with the first.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Fair enough but it's still missing the point of what makes Trump's comments so inappropriate. Do you feel a prospective immigrant's qualifications for a Visa Program should be evaluated solely on the quality of their place of origin or do you feel an immigrant should be evaluated on such merits as the quality of their education, work experience, English speaking ability, the results of a thorough background check and their willingness to assimilate into American culture? Trump's comments were not only crude but narrow minded.
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Oh no! not narrow mindedness! Why do we need these Haitians here? They are a net negative on society. You have to prove why these people are necessary for the US. Otherwise, they can stay home.
 
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Now hold on a second. If those countries aren’t ****holes, why are so many of their people leaving?
Libs will scream, "IT’S THE LEGACY OF COLONIALISM AND RACIST WHITE OPPRESSION!"
Then why do they all want to live in white nations if whites are so bad?
Odd case.
 
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Guys, let's get real here. Trump's language is dangerous. This could have serious consequences if Haiti and the African countries respond by cutting aid to the U.S.
 
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Vols_Baby_Boomer said:
Now hold on a second. If those countries aren’t ****holes, why are so many of their people leaving?
Libs will scream, "IT’S THE LEGACY OF COLONIALISM AND RACIST WHITE OPPRESSION!"
Then why do they all want to live in white nations if whites are so bad?
Odd case.
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I’ve asked this many times through the years. You won’t get an answer.
 
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Vols_Baby_Boomer said:
Oh no! not narrow mindedness! Why do we need these Haitians here? They are a net negative on society. You have to prove why these people are necessary for the US. Otherwise, they can stay home.
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They should be evaluated individually and I would have to know their merits before answering this. You should not say they are a negative without knowing them yourself. A lazy person can from Germany (or Norway) just as much as they can come from Haiti.
 
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Vols_Baby_Boomer said:
Now hold on a second. If those countries aren’t ****holes, why are so many of their people leaving?
Libs will scream, "IT’S THE LEGACY OF COLONIALISM AND RACIST WHITE OPPRESSION!"
Then why do they all want to live in white nations if whites are so bad? Odd case.
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The US isn't a "white" nation. It's a melting pot. Part of what makes it great. All the immigrants coming from ****holes built it that way.
 
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tumscalcium said:
Uh, this is a predominately white nation.

For now.
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Right, but few nations have the diversity that we have (if any). We just had a black president. Calling it a white nation is misleading, relative to actual white countries. We're 72% white. The UK, which has quite a bit of immigration, is 87% white.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
They should be evaluated individually and I would have to know their merits before answering this. You should not say they are a negative without knowing them yourself. A lazy person can from Germany (or Norway) just as much as they can come from Haiti.
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And yet, individuals together form groups. Funny how that works. And as we look at Haitians as a whole in the US, they are a total net negative. Insane levels of government dependence; massive rates of fraud within welfare & other services; extremely low IQs; poor academics; higher rates of disease; extremely high levels of criminality; insane murder, rape, robbery, and other violent crimes. These are all facts. I know you libs love SCIENCE! so you guys will be very accepting.

Would you let these people babysit your daughter or niece?

What does America have to gain from Haitians? America's immigration policy should work for Americans.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Right, but few nations have the diversity that we have (if any). Calling it a white nation is misleading, relative to actual white countries. We're 72% white. The UK, which has quite a bit of immigration, is 87% white.
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This is only a recently development and it was forced upon the people's of these countries. No one in Germany voted to have millions upon millions of Muslims invade their country.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
In Trump's eyes? Yes, I think so. You are free to disagree with me on that but that's what I think he was driving at.
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I think he is saying, in an inappropriate way, why do we continue to bring people into this country who have no skills eventually ending up on the government tit? Its a valid question no matter how it is asked.
 
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Vols_Baby_Boomer said:
Guys, let's get real here. Trump's language is dangerous. This could have serious consequences if Haiti and the African countries respond by cutting aid to the U.S.
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Yes, it is potentially dangerous. The United States has roughly 800 military personnel temporarily deployed to Niger, and roughly 6,000 military personnel spread across the continent, according to U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM). Many of those troops are there to support African partners, alongside allies such as France, with the goal of increasing the African nations' own security capabilities and stabilizing the region.

We don't know for sure if Trump's rhetoric will make their jobs any harder than they already are... but it definitely won't help.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, it is potentially dangerous. The United States has roughly 800 military personnel temporarily deployed to Niger, and roughly 6,000 military personnel spread across the continent, according to U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM). Many of those troops are there to support African partners, alongside allies such as France, with the goal of increasing the African nations' own security capabilities and stabilizing the region.

We don't know for sure if Trump's rhetoric will make their jobs any harder than they already are... but it definitely won't help.
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So making a factually true statement has the potential to set these people off into a murderous rage? These seem like great people! Let's invite them into America!
But remember guys, we are all the same and diversity is out strength!
 
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Vols_Baby_Boomer said:
This is only a recently development and it was forced upon the people's of these countries. No one in Germany voted to have millions upon millions of Muslims invade their country.
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How does this point relate to anything I'm saying?

Looks like Germany did the right thing. Their job placement is exploding and they are still struggling to fill jobs, even with the influx of immigrants.

Germany wins more jobs year on year | Business| Economy and finance news from a German perspective | DW | 03.01.2017
 
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Vols_Baby_Boomer said:
And yet, individuals together form groups. Funny how that works. And as we look at Haitians as a whole in the US, they are a total net negative. Insane levels of government dependence; massive rates of fraud within welfare & other services; extremely low IQs; poor academics; higher rates of disease; extremely high levels of criminality; insane murder, rape, robbery, and other violent crimes. These are all facts. I know you libs love SCIENCE! so you guys will be very accepting.

Would you let these people babysit your daughter or niece?

What does America have to gain from Haitians? America's immigration policy should work for Americans.
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My Uber driver at Disney last weekend was Haitian. Apparently it was super nice of him not to murder, rob or rape me on the way to the marathon expo.
 
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n_huffhines said:
How does this point relate to anything I'm saying?

Looks like Germany did the right thing. Their economy is booming and they are still struggling to fill jobs, even with the influx of immigrants.

Germany wins more jobs year on year | Business| Economy and finance news from a German perspective | DW | 03.01.2017
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How many of those employed were Muslims invaders? Oh, that's right... less than 1%.

So 100% welfare dependency with 1% employment rate is great for the economy. You know what else is great for the German economy? Mass rapes and sexual assaults, kidnappings, assaults, murders, terrorism. Think of all the police they will have to employ!

lol libs you're done here
 
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zaqhhh said:
So it's the media's fault for reporting something that Trump actually said?

You all will go to any length to make this a banana republic!

I'm sorry but some Americans still want the media to report what is going on. Especially if the president is saying explicitly racist remarks that undermine American values not to mention foreign policy.
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What is racist or untrue about what he said..... in closed door meetings you should be able to talk bluntly and honestly.... whoever leaked this deserves their butt kicked.
 
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