Where did life begin? (Merged)

[Orangeslice13]

Abiogenesis still has some holes in it, but it looks fairly promising.

We have a thread dedicated to it that I bump from time to time just to talk about it.
It will be interesting to see how it progresses.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Merry Christmas

You are going to trigger some with that

 

[LibertyVol]

I too believe in a creator. But I would be interested in seeing or reading this evidence.

You are breathing aren't you?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

There is evidence for, and makes sense to me, the universe is a closed manifold, with no “beginning” or “end”. It simply closes back in on itself. Trying to comprehend the “beginning” of time itself is a futile exercise and doesn’t make sense anyway. Space and time are the same fabric of the universe. So there can’t be a “beginning” or “edge” of space too.

No need for a creator, and no need to explain how something came from nothing and illogically stopping the infinite regress at a “prime mover”.

So would you contend that your opinion on this matter holds mire weight than say a well respected, world renowned physicist?

No need to explain? So, in a sense, you are implying that we should stop trying to learn as much as we can about how everything came to be? That we should abandon the scientific method and classify this as scientific fact even with zero evidence to support it? Hmmm, so we should just take it on faith that your theory is correct? Interesting.

 

[The Ron Mexico]

You are breathing aren't you?

Breathing is evidence of a god?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Breathing is evidence of a god?

I’m breathing and you know me to be a god.....so yes.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

All atheist have in common is a lack of belief in a god or gods. There is no doctrine.

They have meetings though.

What do they talk about?

 

[Wafflestomper]

They have meetings though.

What do they talk about?

Mostly how cool it is to wear mixed fibers and covet our neighbors' manservants.

 

[rjd970]

I'd like to believe you, I just don't have the FAITH.

Here’s the the difference, your faith is untouchable and mine isn’t. I can name a number of things that would immediately make me change my position. There are a number of other theories even that make me not believe what I said as a certainty.

Answer this, what evidence would it take for you to believe there isn’t a creator, and even more specific, there isn’t a God, and even more specific the God you may or may not believe in? What piece of evidence would it take to get you to fundamentally believe otherwise?

It’s easy for me. I can name a any number of things it would take for me to believe there is a creator. It would be simple, very simple in fact.

That is the difference in the faith you have, and the “faith” I have. My believe is falsifiable.

 

[rjd970]

So would you contend that your opinion on this matter holds mire weight than say a well respected, world renowned physicist?

No need to explain? So, in a sense, you are implying that we should stop trying to learn as much as we can about how everything came to be? That we should abandon the scientific method and classify this as scientific fact even with zero evidence to support it? Hmmm, so we should just take it on faith that your theory is correct? Interesting.

Negative. I’m simply saying in a closed manifold there is no need for a beginning. Nothing more. If the theory I laid out required a beginning, then yes, further explanation is absolutely required.

 

[The Ron Mexico]

I’m breathing and you know me to be a god.....so yes.

Good enough for me. Where do I sign up?

 

[Orangeslice13]

Good enough for me. Where do I sign up?

No signatures required.
It gives us possible denial ability when things go “south “

 

[FLVOL_79]

Proof of God

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[omaha_vol]

Yes but our system of politics is built on keeping that out of our government and politics. So your thread should be in the Pub.

The forum's brownshirt

 

[omaha_vol]

No, man created God. All of them actually.

I think you could be a good example of evolution MT

 

[omaha_vol]

There is a God because Israeli is proof that God exist.

 

[K9Buck]

Here’s the the difference, your faith is untouchable and mine isn’t. I can name a number of things that would immediately make me change my position. There are a number of other theories even that make me not believe what I said as a certainty.

Answer this, what evidence would it take for you to believe there isn’t a creator, and even more specific, there isn’t a God, and even more specific the God you may or may not believe in? What piece of evidence would it take to get you to fundamentally believe otherwise?

It’s easy for me. I can name a any number of things it would take for me to believe there is a creator. It would be simple, very simple in fact.

That is the difference in the faith you have, and the “faith” I have. My believe is falsifiable.

My point was that belief for or against a creator is, in the end, based on faith.

 

[K9Buck]

Negative. I’m simply saying in a closed manifold there is no need for a beginning. Nothing more. If the theory I laid out required a beginning, then yes, further explanation is absolutely required.

There is less evidence for your theory than there is for the existence of a creator.

 

[K9Buck]

Have you guys ever heard of the ABG theory?

 

[Orangeslice13]

There is a God because Israeli is proof that God exist.

Go on

 

[K9Buck]

There is a God because Israeli is proof that God exist.

I've often asked atheists, if there is no "God", then why have the Jews been singled out for such special persecution, seemingly since time began?

Let me share what I believe. God is real and so is Satan. As God's chosen people, Satan has influenced the Godless to persecute and condemn the Jews. To this day, there are many nations and people that unjustly condemn Israel. Iran routinely talks of destroying Israel and the UN is mute and so are western liberals.

 

[OuterBanksVol]

Religion serves the explanation of the inexplicable and the consolation of the inconsolable.

Faith is the rationalization that such beliefs have purpose.

In truth, we are surrounded by nouns and everything else is but opinion.

 

[K9Buck]

If you can't believe what rjd said, then how can you believe an uncaused agent spoke everything into existence? Is there better evidence for that?

Something came first. What was it?

 

[Orangeslice13]

This should be fun

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

I've often asked atheists, if there is no "God", then why have the Jews been singled out for such special persecution, seemingly since time began?

Let me share what I believe. God is real and so is Satan. As God's chosen people, Satan has influenced the Godless to persecute and condemn the Jews. To this day, there are many nations and people that unjustly condemn Israel. Iran routinely talks of destroying Israel and the UN is mute and so are western liberals.

This post is a piece of work.