D4H's 2017 NFL Draft Review (Best Picks, Best Drafts, and Predictions)

#926
#926
Since we're talking about your predictions. We are about to finish up week 13. Can you tell me how's Kelvin Taylor's season is going. Also, you were horribly wrong on Joey Bosa.
 
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#928
#928
volsarelife1 said:
Since we're talking about your predictions. We are about to finish up week 13. Can you tell me how's Kelvin Taylor's season is going. Also, you were horribly wrong on Joey Bosa.
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Nah man. Bosa is just lucky. D4H has said that. Its all just luck. He said Bosa wont be a first ballot HOFer, according to him, so that means he is a bust.
 
#929
#929
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You gotta watch the lines of scrimmage more closely. He's been our best interior defensive lineman the last 2 years. He's a really good player. Reminds me a lot of Ray McDonald (former Florida Gator that played on the 49ers).

I think Kendal Vickers starts for 5-7 years in the NFL. He's not a star player. But he'll be solid.
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I watch the DL give up about 400 rushing yards a game. They are all bad
 
#931
#931
also funny ho often he points out the flash in the pans guy, then goes off about his flash in the pan guy. Kamara is new and underutilized and Ds haven't had time to adjust, plus they have another guy to prep for. hardly means he has his ticket punched already to the HoF
 
#932
#932
LouderVol said:
also funny ho often he points out the flash in the pans guy, then goes off about his flash in the pan guy. Kamara is new and underutilized and Ds haven't had time to adjust, plus they have another guy to prep for. hardly means he has his ticket punched already to the HoF
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Every Defense going against the Saints know about Kamara or they shouldn’t have a job. He’s certainly not underutilized either. Kamara is the one guy D4H was right on
 
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#933
#933
LouderVol said:
also funny ho often he points out the flash in the pans guy, then goes off about his flash in the pan guy. Kamara is new and underutilized and Ds haven't had time to adjust, plus they have another guy to prep for. hardly means he has his ticket punched already to the HoF
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My evaluations are purely done by the eye test. I don't need Alvin putting up historic numbers to know he's an all-time great. I saw it early this season when he was barely playing.

Alvin Kamara is not a flash in the pan and he ain't getting figured out. He's a special player.
 
#934
#934
volnbama_ said:
Every Defense going against the Saints know about Kamara or they shouldn’t have a job. He’s certainly not underutilized either. Kamara is the one guy D4H was right on
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just like every team should have known about Hunt, or anyone else new?
 
#935
#935
LouderVol said:
just like every team should have known about Hunt, or anyone else new?
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You mean Hunt as in the first few weeks of the season? Seems like they caught up to him pretty quick. Kamara has been the top producing back in the NFL since week 6. Defenses know all about him
 
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#936
#936
volnbama_ said:
You mean Hunt as in the first few weeks of the season? Seems like they caught up to him pretty quick. Kamara has been the top producing back in the NFL since week 6. Defenses know all about him
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I haven't been watching them closely, but the Chiefs' offensive line play the last several weeks has apparently been atrocious. When you have a struggling offense, all your offensive problems begin (and sometimes even end) there.

Also, I think Drew Brees and Sean Payton are a more formidable combo than Alex Smith and Andy Reid. New Orleans is running a true two-back system (Kamara and Ingram) with a better QB and better offensive line. I've watched some of New Orleans's games this year and Ingram/Kamara both have cavernous holes to run through. Kamara is just so shifty and hard to bring down and also runs routes well. Yes, teams know what is coming, but New Orleans is mixing it up and executing it so well it doesn't matter.
 
#939
#939
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Agreed. Can't believe I forgot about him. I also forgot Evan Berry. Both will play in the NFL as specialists.

Berry as a kick returner and Daniel as a starting punter.
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I would like to see the Chiefs take Berry and Eric teach him to play DB as well being a KR -- since the idiots at UT failed to develop him
 
#940
#940
volnbama_ said:
Every Defense going against the Saints know about Kamara or they shouldn’t have a job. He’s certainly not underutilized either. Kamara is the one guy D4H was right on
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He was kind of right on Kamara. He already crowned him as the next Marshall Faulk. Thats looney tunes.
 
#941
#941
BigOrangeTrain said:
He was kind of right on Kamara. He already crowned him as the next Marshall Faulk. Thats looney tunes.
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The Marshall Faulk career comp is a bit premature. They certainly play similarly but Kamara has to show he can do it over multiple years
 
#942
#942
LouderVol said:
also funny ho often he points out the flash in the pans guy, then goes off about his flash in the pan guy. Kamara is new and underutilized and Ds haven't had time to adjust, plus they have another guy to prep for. hardly means he has his ticket punched already to the HoF
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Kamara has the same ability Dobbs did with the shiftiness and ability to avoid hits. It's a freakish skill that very few players have. I wasn't sure it would translate to the NFL but it clearly has. Kamara definitely has benefited with Brees and Ingram next to him (as well as Payton giving him chances in different ways) but he's easily been the best rookie I've seen this year.
 
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#943
#943
LittleCat said:
Kamara has the same ability Dobbs did with the shiftiness and ability to avoid hits. It's a freakish skill that very few players have. I wasn't sure it would translate to the NFL but it clearly has. Kamara definitely has benefited with Brees and Ingram next to him (as well as Payton giving him chances in different ways) but he's easily been the best rookie I've seen this year.
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The king of this was Emmitt, IMO
 
#944
#944
volnbama_ said:
Every Defense going against the Saints know about Kamara or they shouldn’t have a job. He’s certainly not underutilized either. Kamara is the one guy D4H was right on
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FWIW, I drafted Kamara in two fantasy leagues, even though he was 3rd string. I'm pretty sure we all thought he was going to be pretty good? Maybe not?
 
#945
#945
n_huffhines said:
FWIW, I drafted Kamara in two fantasy leagues, even though he was 3rd string. I'm pretty sure we all thought he was going to be pretty good? Maybe not?
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I drafted him in my keeper as well. As a Saints fan I was ecstatic when we traded up to get him. It’s not a huge hit by D4H but one he got right
 
#946
#946
508mikey said:
I would like to see the Chiefs take Berry and Eric teach him to play DB as well being a KR -- since the idiots at UT failed to develop him
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so you want to take a guy prone to injury and get him more snaps in a roll that will lead to even more contact?
 
#947
#947
volnbama_ said:
I drafted him in my keeper as well. As a Saints fan I was ecstatic when we traded up to get him. It’s not a huge hit by D4H but one he got right
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I think we all figured Kamara would be good. There was a large outcry throughout his time at UT that he needed the ball more. But no one predicted HOF status, and it's still way too early to say that.
 
#948
#948
Stole this from another board. PFF grade on Tennessee defenders this year.
> 85 or higher: Considered NFL-ready

> 80-84: Very good

> 50-60: Average

> Below 50: Bad

DEFENSIVE TACKLE

3. Kahlil McKenzie: 78.7 (439 plays)

10. Alexis Johnson: 69.6 (189 plays)

17. Shy Tuttle: 50.6 (267 plays)

18. Quay Picou: 48.8 (107 plays)

21. Kendal Vickers: 48.1 (632 plays)

25. Kivon Bennett: 47.2 (14 plays)

DEFENSIVE END

6. Darrell Taylor: 76.1 (483 plays)

8. Jonathan Kongbo: 72.2 (598 plays)

11. Kyle Phillips: 69.1 (532 plays)

14. Deandre Johnson: 52.1 (56 plays)

19. Matthew Butler: 48.2 (87 plays)

LINEBACKER

4. Daniel Bituli: 78.5 (500 plays)

7. Quart'e Sapp: 74.7 (447 plays)

13. Will Ignont: 58.9 (27 plays)

16. Cortez McDowell: 50.8 (163 plays)

22. Elliott Berry: 48.0 (250 plays)

28. Colton Jumper: 42.9 (568 plays)

CORNERBACK

1. Rashaan Gaulden: 84.1 (696 plays)

9. Emmanuel Moseley: 71.4 (634 plays)

15. Baylen Buchanan: 51.4 (50 plays)

23. Marquill Osborne: 47.9 (36 plays)

24. Justin Martin: 47.5 (544 plays)

26. Shawn Shamburger: 44.9 (118 plays)

27. Shaq Wiggins: 43.3 (294 plays)

SAFETY

2. Nigel Warrior: 81.0 (822 plays)

5. Todd Kelly Jr.: 76.2 (59 plays)

12. Theo Jackson: 69.0 (47 plays)

20. Micah Abernathy: 48.1 (760 plays
 
#950
#950
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You gotta watch the lines of scrimmage more closely. He's been our best interior defensive lineman the last 2 years. He's a really good player. Reminds me a lot of Ray McDonald (former Florida Gator that played on the 49ers).

I think Kendal Vickers starts for 5-7 years in the NFL. He's not a star player. But he'll be solid.
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Kendal Vickers: 48.1 (632 plays) PFF grades him out as one of the worst DL in football
 
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