People jumping off theMullin train yet ?

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VOLSDB said:
And without 5 turnovers by the players, they probably win by 2 tds. Not every loss is always on the coaches. That's what a lot of our fan base doesn't seem to understand. Mullen put his team in position to win. The players didn't hold up their end
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Ifs and Buts ! Its still a lose . An ugly lose
 
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VOLSDB said:
And without 5 turnovers by the players, they probably win by 2 tds. Not every loss is always on the coaches. That's what a lot of our fan base doesn't seem to understand. Mullen put his team in position to win. The players didn't hold up their end
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Same crap we heard for years under Jones. Players didn't do this, players didn't do that, Saint Butch had them in position to win, etc., etc.

His record reflects the type of coach he is, all belabored excuses notwithstanding.
 
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KBVol said:
The difference is that Jones couldn’t beat anybody with 4 and 5 star players (his player development was awful), with great resources (second most profitable football program in the country last year, $70mm) while playing in an awful SECe division.....vs Mullen who was battling the big boys with 2 and 3 star players (his player development has been very good), at the 2nd worst SEC program, with virtually no resources (not in the top 20 in profits, less than $28mm) while playing in the most difficult division in college football.

Would Mullen be a homerun hire for us? No idea, I have my doubts. But given his track record both as Florida's OC and Miss State’s HC, I think there’s little to no doubt that he’d do much better at Tennessee than Sgt Carter did....there’s zero doubt in my mind.
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This is my last response cause I’m tired bud but I’ve enjoyed our debate. I haven’t seen anything that would make me think Dan Mullen could beat Kirby smart once a year or Nick Saban twice a year to get us an SEC championship not to mention LSU/ATM/Auburn every few years. So if he can’t win an SEC championship here I don’t want to even consider him. We’ve been terrible over a decade now so no more pretty good coach hires for me. Either hire a proven power 5 conference/national championship winner, or hire Scott Frost from the up and comer pool of coaches.
 
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VOLatileCharge said:
This is my last response cause I’m tired bud but I’ve enjoyed our debate. I haven’t seen anything that would make me think Dan Mullen could beat Kirby smart once a year or Nick Saban twice a year to get us an SEC championship not to mention LSU/ATM/Auburn every few years. So if he can’t win an SEC championship here I don’t want to even consider him. We’ve been terrible over a decade now so no more pretty good coach hires for me. Either hire a proven power 5 conference/national championship winner, or hire Scott Frost from the up and comer pool of coaches.
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Yep. Its all on the coaches. I think ill let my kids use that excuse the next time they fail a test. Ill just have them tell the teacher its their fault for not "teaching" good enough. Its not her fault she didn't study or pay attention in class...
 
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VOLSDB said:
Yep. Its all on the coaches. I think ill let my kids use that excuse the next time they fail a test. Ill just have them tell the teacher its their fault for not "teaching" good enough. Its not her fault she didn't study or pay attention in class...
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Ok, then should we have kept Butch?
 
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VOLSDB said:
Yep. Its all on the coaches. I think ill let my kids use that excuse the next time they fail a test. Ill just have them tell the teacher its their fault for not "teaching" good enough. Its not her fault she didn't study or pay attention in class...
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Does the teacher get $4 million for her job? Hell, if it's the kids' fault or responsibility, why bother getting a coach in the first place, or, at least paying good money for one?
 
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VOLSDB said:
Yep. Its all on the coaches. I think ill let my kids use that excuse the next time they fail a test. Ill just have them tell the teacher its their fault for not "teaching" good enough. Its not her fault she didn't study or pay attention in class...
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If your child was actively recruited to her school and the teacher was payed millions of dollars to prepare her for a test where she was only graded against the scores of other students and had all the questions beforehand, then yes you could blame the teacher.
 
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VOLSDB said:
Yep. Its all on the coaches. I think ill let my kids use that excuse the next time they fail a test. Ill just have them tell the teacher its their fault for not "teaching" good enough. Its not her fault she didn't study or pay attention in class...
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Additionally it's already this way at classrooms of all levels all across the nation.
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
God we could do soooo much better than Dan freakin Mullen.
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We could also do a whole lot worse. Is Mullen an elite coach? No way. He is solid. And if we whiff on our top targets, then we will be lucky to get him.

BTW, my choices of coaches would be 1. Petersen/Patterson 2. Gruden 3. Frost 4. Kelly. After those I would want either Kiffin or Mullen.
 
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Peterson or Patterson then Frost and Kiffin if Mullen is all we can do then go the coordinator route. Mullen is not ever going to win an NC anyhwere . I would like to see Ut win another MC in my life time . I though MS got beat in every aspect of the game tonite
 
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QuickSmurf said:
It's depressing knowing that this site has so many that can't recognize a good coach at a lower tier school.
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The posters on here and TN fans in general are insane."I WILL ONLY ACCEPT A COACH THAT WINS 12 GAMES A YEAR, NO LESS.IF THEY CAN'T BEAT BAMA THEN THEY SUCK. WOW THEY HAD A BAD YEAR, NEXT. WOW A COACH THAT WAS MEDIOCRE IN THE NFL, WANT."

While Tennessee is a more attractive job than most,it's not a top tier program like before so those big "sure thing" coaches aren't going to leave their top programs.

Stop being delusional VN
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dcm3w said:
The posters on here and TN fans in general are insane."I WILL ONLY ACCEPT A COACH THAT WINS 12 GAMES A YEAR, NO LESS.IF THEY CAN'T BEAT BAMA THEN THEY SUCK. WOW THEY HAD A BAD YEAR, NEXT. WOW A COACH THAT WAS MEDIOCRE IN THE NFL, WANT."

While Tennessee is a more attractive job than most,it's not a top tier program like before so those big "sure thing" coaches aren't going to leave their top programs.

Stop being delusional VN
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Hyperbole much?
 
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Unimane said:
No, that's you. You want to carry water for guys who have losing records in games that really county, be my guest. But don't think for a minute that you're supporting anything remotely intelligent or have a basis for telling others they are on a lesser plane than you.

Quick, name one, one, real accomplishment by Dan Mullen and, don't give me the "it's really hard to win at MSU" crap. He isn't winning and it's been going on for nearly ten years.

And, you have the balls to tell people they are dumb for realizing this plainly obvious fact? Amazing.
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Turned a slow 6'0", 250-pound quarterback at Bowling Green named Josh Harris into an NFL draft pick.

Turned a two-star QB recruit at Utah into a Heisman finalist and the 1st overall pick in the NFL Draft - beating out Aaron Rodgers as the top QB in the draft class as well

Turned an underachieving QB in Chris Leak, who was on the verge of transferring away, into a national champion starter

Turned Tim Tebow into a Heisman winner, a national champion, and a 1st-round pick

Turned a mid-level recruit in Dak Prescott into a two-time All-SEC pick, an NFL draft pick, and the toast of Dallas

Took Mississippi State to the first #1 ranking in the history of the program
 
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dcm3w said:
The posters on here and TN fans in general are insane."I WILL ONLY ACCEPT A COACH THAT WINS 12 GAMES A YEAR, NO LESS.IF THEY CAN'T BEAT BAMA THEN THEY SUCK. WOW THEY HAD A BAD YEAR, NEXT. WOW A COACH THAT WAS MEDIOCRE IN THE NFL, WANT."

While Tennessee is a more attractive job than most,it's not a top tier program like before so those big "sure thing" coaches aren't going to leave their top programs.

Stop being delusional VN
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Someone is delusional and I don’t think it’s Volnation
 
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Mullen proved that he's already overpaid. Throwing another million or so on top of his current salary to try and woo him from Starkville is throwing good money after bad IMO.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
Turned a slow 6'0", 250-pound quarterback at Bowling Green named Josh Harris into an NFL draft pick.

Turned a two-star QB recruit at Utah into a Heisman finalist and the 1st overall pick in the NFL Draft - beating out Aaron Rodgers as the top QB in the draft class as well

Turned an underachieving QB in Chris Leak, who was on the verge of transferring away, into a national champion starter

Turned Tim Tebow into a Heisman winner, a national champion, and a 1st-round pick

Turned a mid-level recruit in Dak Prescott into a two-time All-SEC pick, an NFL draft pick, and the toast of Dallas

Took Mississippi State to the first #1 ranking in the history of the program
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Basically all this proves is that Mullen is a very good QB coach.
 
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