Official Jon Gruden thread XL

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So Bubba alluded to something happening today. Something about watching VN.

And nothing happened.

I’m going to say we get a similar result Tuesday/Wednesday when we are supposedly going to announce Gruden.
 
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vol9799 said:
From the beginning, two groups have defined this. The discontented, result-demanding, Gruden chasers and the establishment, participation award loving, Butch bricklayers.

The Grudes have been told there's a renewed commitment to the program. Multiple posters/sites with access have alluded to this change. Claims have been made to recruits. Some reputable posters have even claimed big boosters drew the necessary lines in the sand to move Butch out effectively after the GA game.

The status quo anti-Grudes meanwhile argue that it is business as usual. John Currie didn't really want to fire Butch. The power structure hasn't really changed. Those folks believe they have the right read on Jon Currie and UT's BOT.

Since the firing, the camps have existed in two completely parallel universes. The anti-Grudes championed by Hyams, Lowe, etc continue the basic theme that the status quo is alive and well. No Gruden; No big money for coaches; No booster or fan influence; etc. While the Grudes continue to receive information stoking their belief that CJG is coming home.

So what is reality? Are the Grudes being led along to keep them quiet during the hiring process or are the anti-grudes just so dang arrogant that they cannot recognize their obvious shortsightedness?

Either way, I think we find out soon. The establishment is starting to put out Frost/Mullen announcement rumors for next week. Grudes are prepped for Gruden next week.

My point? We're about to find out not just who we get as coach, but whether there's truly been a fundamental shift in the attitude toward the program.

If Mullen or Frost trot out, that tells me it's status quo. The lazy establishment media is propped up by UT in exchange for predictability. Academicians, who are educated beyond their intelligence, will continue to call the shots for an entity over which they are singularly unqualified to have authority. Mediocrity will be accepted as long as it provides modest financial return.

If Gruden marches out, then the "we cannot expect to routinely win 10 games" crowd has been tossed out on their collective ear. Establishment media will be "dis" established. The academic side will focus on managing and improving their part of the UT and the athletic side will handle athletics. In short, it's a reset for UT. People who have gotten results in their business careers will obviously be demanding equally successful results from their University.

Call me fatalistic, but if the status quo shows up, I think the exits get crowded. If the "safe" hire happens to be successful, it won't end up mattering because without the new commitment, we'll lose a strongly successful coach to someone who is committed.

Jon Gruden walking out on that stage is not just about getting Jon Gruden. It's about setting an expectation for our University. It's about whether we are determined to be great, or whether we just want to protect the status quo.

SOON better be the answer or "never again" may be what we get left with.

Good thing SOON is the answer. :)
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Nice summary, I hope status quo is not the decision, if it is we might as well drop our SEC member status, spend 340 gazillion on academics instead of an upgrade to Neyland, and forget about playing flag football, my $ will not flow to the hill under those circumstances.
 
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vol9799 said:
From the beginning, two groups have defined this. The discontented, result-demanding, Gruden chasers and the establishment, participation award loving, Butch bricklayers.

The Grudes have been told there's a renewed commitment to the program. Multiple posters/sites with access have alluded to this change. Claims have been made to recruits. Some reputable posters have even claimed big boosters drew the necessary lines in the sand to move Butch out effectively after the GA game.

The status quo anti-Grudes meanwhile argue that it is business as usual. John Currie didn't really want to fire Butch. The power structure hasn't really changed. Those folks believe they have the right read on Jon Currie and UT's BOT.

Since the firing, the camps have existed in two completely parallel universes. The anti-Grudes championed by Hyams, Lowe, etc continue the basic theme that the status quo is alive and well. No Gruden; No big money for coaches; No booster or fan influence; etc. While the Grudes continue to receive information stoking their belief that CJG is coming home.

So what is reality? Are the Grudes being led along to keep them quiet during the hiring process or are the anti-grudes just so dang arrogant that they cannot recognize their obvious shortsightedness?

Either way, I think we find out soon. The establishment is starting to put out Frost/Mullen announcement rumors for next week. Grudes are prepped for Gruden next week.

My point? We're about to find out not just who we get as coach, but whether there's truly been a fundamental shift in the attitude toward the program.

If Mullen or Frost trot out, that tells me it's status quo. The lazy establishment media is propped up by UT in exchange for predictability. Academicians, who are educated beyond their intelligence, will continue to call the shots for an entity over which they are singularly unqualified to have authority. Mediocrity will be accepted as long as it provides modest financial return.

If Gruden marches out, then the "we cannot expect to routinely win 10 games" crowd has been tossed out on their collective ear. Establishment media will be "dis" established. The academic side will focus on managing and improving their part of the UT and the athletic side will handle athletics. In short, it's a reset for UT. People who have gotten results in their business careers will obviously be demanding equally successful results from their University.

Call me fatalistic, but if the status quo shows up, I think the exits get crowded. If the "safe" hire happens to be successful, it won't end up mattering because without the new commitment, we'll lose a strongly successful coach to someone who is committed.

Jon Gruden walking out on that stage is not just about getting Jon Gruden. It's about setting an expectation for our University. It's about whether we are determined to be great, or whether we just want to protect the status quo.

SOON better be the answer or "never again" may be what we get left with.

Good thing SOON is the answer. :)
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Very well said I believe . I think we are all ready to find out which direction and path we are headed down .
 
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0nelilreb said:
You did say that any other time it was brought up , it was only laughter .
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Its not like it was serious lol. I asked if they were ready for Gruden in a joking way and we laughed about it a couple times. I speak to this person very regularly in the course of doing business. One of only 2-3 people who I know and would bring info out especially after 2012.
 
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apevol said:
This thread needs a shot in the ******n arm
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OrangePill said:
Step 4 of the crypto complete. Our words are:

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Not sure where to go from here. Never solved a crypto that has full words.
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I'm hoping for a wikileaks style info dump from a remote server. Doubtful, but would be crazy.
 
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goooooovols said:
Why tweet @ her tho...grown men don’t do that.
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Hmmm....did not seem like it was tweeted @ her but any case, they both are grown adults ! Definetly not an insider but I wondered when Beav had to cut it short the other night because he had better things to do(paraphrasing)....perhaps it was a hot date with Lady D :)
 
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I'm wondering how many people I'm going to hit with my shopping cart in the grocery store while I'm wandering around and trying to get caught up with this thread...
 
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