Official Jon Gruden Thread 31

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Per the NCAA statistics guidelines for counting wins etc (page 9) in link

CO-HEAD COACHES
Both coaches must be declared co-head coaches by the institution before the season begins OR at the
time of a coaching change. Both co-head coaches will be credited with the team’s won-lost record.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/ForSIDs/Policies.pdf

Would imply there is nothing wrong with it...

That's not the rule that having two head coaches would run up against. It's this one:

NCAA Rule Book said:
NCAA Article 11: Conduct and Employment of Athletics Personnel:

11.7.2 Football Bowl Subdivision - There shall be a limit of one head coach, nine assistant coaches and two graduate assistant coaches who may be employed by an institution in bowl subdivision football.

So to avoid going over the limit in number of coaches, you give effective dates to the new coach's term in his contract. Then, no problem.
 
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i'm not sure we understand each other's post.

Understood your post. Yes we should trust Peyton and Fulmer as to helping decide a coach.

Then I extrapolated without a proper segue that many would trust Peyton not only with helping find a HC, but would actually trust him to be a successful HC more than they're trusting Gruden.
 
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Kind of off topic, but does anyone know firsthand that Peyton Manning is really close with Haslams? Or is that just speculation? I just can’t picture the personality fit. Common business interests, yes. But the kind of relationship where they go out of the way for each other, not seeing it.
Haslams don't go out of their way for anything or anybody unless it profits them in some way. Dee is running the Browns now that Jimmy will likely be indicted.
 
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Understood your post. Yes we should trust Peyton and Fulmer as to helping decide a coach.

Then I extrapolated without a proper segue that many would trust Peyton not only with helping find a HC, but would actually trust him to be a successful HC more than they're trusting Gruden.
:hi::thumbsup:
 
This is one reason why I think Butch hasn't been formally fired.

There is no way Gruden could install any of his system or really impact the outcome of this season. I think neither the AD or him wants to saddle him with any losses because of Butch' s cluster of a season.

No coach would take over mid season. We would have an interim coach.
 
That's not the rule that having two head coaches would run up against. It's this one:



So to avoid going over the limit in number of coaches, you give effective dates to the new coach's term in his contract. Then, no problem.

Or is Butch still considered the head coach according to certain paperwork? I see nothing about interim*
 
Or is Butch still considered the head coach according to certain paperwork? I see nothing about interim*

Big, I don't think there's any doubt that Butch is still our head coach. Formally, informally, secretly, any way you could put it, he's the coach.

Gruden can be signed already, but that doesn't make him our coach yet. If the effective date of a contract is post-dated to, for instance, 26 November, he wouldn't be our coach until then.

And Butch remains our head coach until fired. Which he clearly hasn't been yet, since he's going to be on the sideline making decisions in about 6 hours.
 
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I remember seeing a post yesterday about some recruits flipping when Gruden is announced. I haven't really left this thread in like 6 weeks (it's no fun out there), so is anyone hearing anything on the recruiting front, considering Gruden will be the next HC?
 
That's not the rule that having two head coaches would run up against. It's this one:



So to avoid going over the limit in number of coaches, you give effective dates to the new coach's term in his contract. Then, no problem.

Good find, I updated my post to link to yours
 
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Who all is watching the game tonight? I hope the team can pull one out but with what Mizzou did to Florida I'm not getting my hopes up.

I do believe Butch had been told he won't be back so I want the team to finish out strong for the seniors. At least make a bowl.

I really think Butch is gone no matter if they win out or not.

I will watch ANY UT Football I have the chance to. I will admit to not watch all of a few recent ones. :ermm:

GBO!! Grude On!!
 
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Warner Agee was on the radio saying that Sunday was the day. I'm not sure who he knows but he seemed very confident about it, enough to put it out there.

help me out here ... i keep seeing his name and info but i have no idea who he is ... google isn't helpful on this one ... who is warner agee and how would he know good intel?
 
per an old linkedin i found, he was a Tennessee beat reporter for the Dyersburg State Gazzette.

that's all i found, and wasn't sure about that even.
been so preoccupied not knowing who he is, i'm a little in the dark.
so, what's he saying again, and how's he know?

sorry for being stupit agin.
:p
 
I said it before, if we land JG and he brings Tee home, we'll have to build a bigger stadium...oh wait...we are!

In all seriousness, if Tee wants a good HC job, he could easily come here, continue to recruit well and if become relevant, he'll get plenty of offers
 
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