Recruiting Forum Football Talk XLII

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Kingston Vol said:
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It seems to me he could have just as easily said something like, "I'm looking at some things right now. It would have to be a perfect situation."
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No way. He would never say, "I'm looking at things right now." The grumors would just go wild, and he is trying to do the opposite.
 
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LaagerVol said:
Meh, whatever. Of course they are different but nohing you posted means much relative to Gruden.

1. There is zero precedent for a super bowl winning, celebrity coach going to college to coach
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Yeah, if you add enough qualifiers to it, there is no precedent. But that's disengenuous. There is a precedent for successful NFL coaches not being successful in CFB. That's not really arguable unless you want to shift the goalposts.



2. Gruden knows how much time he would have to put into recruiting. If he thinks it's too much, more than he wants to do, he would just decline the offer. He isn't gonna fail because of that, he just wouldn't coach college. The notion that he doesn't want to put enough time in to be a college coach is nonsense too. He is famous for his work ethic. NFL coaches put in insane amounts of time at work too.
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The only disagreement I have here is the last sentence, really. Yeah, NFL coaches work a lot, but they do have a lot more time in the offseason they can spend away from their job. College coaches are basically always on the clock in some way or another.

Even when they get some vacation time away with the family, they've gotta pick up the phone if a 5* or a key commit calls. Even during dead periods, they've gotta do evaluations of recruits and keep half an eye on the kids on campus.

NFL coaches have to do evaluations for the draft and all, but they've got a GM sharing that load and times during the offseason when they can get away uninterrupted for a while at least.

3. The academic ineligibility thing is a negligible point

There are challenges and differences, but Gruden is a smart man. If he decided to do it he would go into it with his eyes wide open, fully understanding everything.

Chances of him not being successful are very slim.
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The academic ineligibility thing was just an example of some of the things NFL coaches don't have to deal with that college coaches do. My ultimate point this whole time has been that no amount of NFL success can really guarantee college success because of the many small differences between the two.

I think Gruden would be a good coach as well. I'm not sure he'll be the Saban killer many hype him up as, but I don't doubt he'd recruit really well for us, put together a good staff, and develop talent much better than we've seen in a while.

If he's gonna be as good as many here are hyping him up to be though, we'd need to surround him with a crazy large support staff like Bama has done with Saban.


PS..... I'm calm as can be. Not gonna get too up or down over this. Just waiting to see what happens.
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My bad I thought your post had an aggressive slant to it. Tone can be hard to nail over the internet.
 
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millst987 said:
He seemed totally happy with his current setup imo. He’s not looking to leave, but suggested that his contract wasn’t guaranteed. Just seems to me he already has his dream job, but will keep the door open if his current setup is no longer an option. Jmo
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I don’t think his cushy job will be around much longer.
 
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Never had to do this before in the RF, but I've been Gruding for 24 hours straight over in the FF.

Can anyone catch me up on what's happened in here since yesterday?

:)
 
#3,737
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Dude likes attention.

Also pretty good opportunity for him if he’s in negotiations. Downplay and follow the “I’m happy with the job I have” statements publicly places those you are negotiating with in an awkward position.
 
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VolGee4 said:
No way. He would never say, "I'm looking at things right now." The grumors would just go wild, and he is trying to do the opposite.
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Maybe so. It just seems to me that if it were a "done deal", and he knew he was taking the job, he'd want to do everything he could to talk it up. To really sell the job and his decision.
 
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Rishvol said:
FF is saying that it's a sure thing because of the interview
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I wouldn't say sure thing but I think he handled all the questions in a very professional manner. I understand a lot of people want him to drop some hint if he is going to be back in coaching in the near future but that's not the way this is supposed to work. No AD or NFL owner wants to be embarrassed because he couldn't close the deal so any deal has to get worked out in super secret private discussions.

In my view that interview was entirely consistent with JG being introduced Sunday as our new football coach. That's not necessarily what is going to happen but who knows. The interview doesn't inform that answer one way or the other. Anyone and everyone involved in something like this has to say the right things at the right time so as not to let the cat out of the bag too early. jmo.
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Maybe so. It just seems to me that if it were a "done deal", and he knew he was taking the job, he'd want to do everything he could to talk it up. To really sell the job and his decision.
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No job opening to talk about. He said exactly what you would say if you were him. Nothing much
 
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Kingston Vol said:
Maybe so. It just seems to me that if it were a "done deal", and he knew he was taking the job, he'd want to do everything he could to talk it up. To really sell the job and his decision.
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I am like you that I will believe it when I see it. However, things could still be fluid or as some have said, he could be trying to avoid the picture that he is talking while there is a sitting coach.
 
#3,743
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If JG is just playing it cool on this, don't even think you will ever figure out what he's up to as a coach. Just enjoy the ride.
 
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85SugarVol said:
I have failed you. Failed you all.
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But really just a lot of posts about a meeting at Blackberry Farms between Gruden and Boosters, and the possibility that the Grove Inn wild goose chase was nothing but a smokescreen.

Standard Grumors, really.
 
#3,748
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Why would Currie and/or Gruden allow all of this Grudenmania to continue if they know a deal isn't going to happen? They are just setting up the fan base to be disappointed when they hire someone else. Is Gruden still in play since neither of them has eliminated him?

Also, I have seen a lot of people blaming Currie for hanging on to Butch too long. Perhaps our new coach, whoever it is, wants this so he can be announced at the same time Butch is terminated.
 
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Rishvol said:
FF is saying that it's a sure thing because of the interview
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I guess you can hear anything if you want to bad enough. I mean he isn't gonna come out and say TN offered me a job, but it just seemed to me like he didn't have any plans to coach soon.
 
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Tennessee Golfer said:
Y’all seen this? It’ll make you feel some kind of way.

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SOB I don’t know how to fix it. Just copy and paste it.
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Now, if I'm to take him at his word, than that doesn't sound too promising, but if he can't talk about it then maybe my wishful thinking, but to me he sounded kind of nervous/breathless when the guy was asking those questions. He seemed more himself after the subject got away from that.
 
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