Official Jon Gruden Thread XXIX

[patrick]

Another Coaching Poll

go vote my fellow OG's

 

[VolsCigarMan]

That doesn't make sense. I thought we discussed this before and it is the other way around. He is owed on buyout for every year he has left and the monthly would be prorated. The buyout would be more if we fire now vs. December.

Wow and UT is paying him $341,667 per month. Can't blame Butch though, he definitely scammed UT and the last AD for getting this kind of money.

 

[Lcvol66]

I think you would be surprised how many of us are long-time lurkers. I have been here a long time, just never post.

I was here in 2012, totally bought in and had my hopes dashed just like the rest.

A little over a month ago, I decided to stick my toes in the water again. And just as I was about to walk away, the beav entered and things got really good. I was hooked and have been here ever since. (My husband can't believe I am buying this again lol)

I have learned so much more this time though - VCs, MOUs, booster power structures, etc. what a great ride!

Thanks to all the OGs and insiders for bringing the info and educating all of us. And especially to those like Boro and SFD - so patient and trying to keep us grounded.

To those of you in Georgia like me, I can't wait til we can trash talk all these Dawgs again!

SOON!!!

I think everyone would be surprised how many of us this post describes to a T.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Yeah — was getting caught up on posts and noticed another person who responded to you earlier. HAS to be one of my cousins, because he was talking about my grandmother. Funny.

That's too cool for school.

If I were to find one of my cousins in VolNation (and a lot of them are Vols fans), I'd totally freak out. :good!:

 

[SaintLouisVol]

That doesn't make sense. I thought we discussed this before and it is the other way around. He is owed on buyout for every year he has left and the monthly would be prorated. The buyout would be more if we fire now vs. December.

The premise of the story is this:

Jones's buyout annually is less than his actual salary. Therefore, the monthly buyout payment is less than his actual salary payment. Therefore, it is costing the University money for him to coach. Riveting, huh?

The headline has nothing whatsoever to do with that fact, and poor editing in the copy creates even more ambiguity.

 

[hohenfelsvol]

Does anyone else find Rucker’s incessant denials strange? Wasn’t he on the staff with Hargis back in 2012? And now his coworkers at 247 have acknowledged there is real smoke, even Danny Parker who had previously given it a 0% chance. What would make Rucker so obstinate in the face of all that?

What Rucker does or doesn't do means absolutely nothing to me.

 

[superdave1984]

this is spot on and without question validates how Gruden's staff would be nothing less than world class.

I have to wonder though, would he be able to KEEP that kind of a staff?

 

[TenUhSee]

He is actually doing something far more stupid. He is now working against the Gruden deal. Why in the hell would he throw out there that Butch is mad Gruden is trying to take the job from under him? Knowing Gruden would be sensitive to such a thing. This is getting ridiculous.

keep in mind these media guys are in a business to make money.

controversy = higher ratings = more money

 

[Hawkpilot]

Tweet from MIT:

I love Lagavulin 16! Some people are too scared to try because of the Smokey flavor. Yes, you may get burned the first couple sips but by the third everything will feel just right.

 

[patrick]

I think you would be surprised how many of us are long-time lurkers. I have been here a long time, just never post.

I was here in 2012, totally bought in and had my hopes dashed just like the rest.

A little over a month ago, I decided to stick my toes in the water again. And just as I was about to walk away, the beav entered and things got really good. I was hooked and have been here ever since. (My husband can't believe I am buying this again lol)

I have learned so much more this time though - VCs, MOUs, booster power structures, etc. what a great ride!

Thanks to all the OGs and insiders for bringing the info and educating all of us. And especially to those like Boro and SFD - so patient and trying to keep us grounded.

To those of you in Georgia like me, I can't wait til we can trash talk all these Dawgs again!

SOON!!!

I am in Woodstock....

Soon

 

[volforlife98]

Beaver is exactly who he says he is. He runs in circles of people in the know. He works in the field he said he does.

Correct.

 

[crparker21]

The premise of the story is this:

Jones's buyout annually is less than his actual salary. Therefore, the monthly buyout payment is less than his actual salary payment. Therefore, it is costing the University money for him to coach. Riveting, huh?

The headline has nothing whatsoever to do with that fact, and poor editing in the copy creates even more ambiguity.

I see now, I skimmed the article the first time. Crazy!

 

[WestTenn]

smoke = Lagavulin 16

 

[VFL-82-JP]

I have to wonder though, would he be able to KEEP that kind of a staff?

The keeping of them isn't even the goal, I don't think. You actually hope they'll leave for jobs as head coaches themselves. Because you'll quickly get known as the incubator for upward coaching mobility, and you'll continue to have the best assistant coaches and position coaches in the nation knocking on the door to be let in.

So it's a dynamic form of excellence, rather than a static one. But still very, very good, right?

 

[DuckRiverVol]

Why are we keeping Butch so long if it cost UT more money each month?

Here's how much Butch Jones' buyout fee increases each month | News | utdailybeacon.com

"It could include agreements to not recruit or solicit."

 

[SaintLouisVol]

I have to wonder though, would he be able to KEEP that kind of a staff?

No, but great coaches and top programs never do. Saban loses coaches all the time because the success and experience they gain under him is highly valued by other schools.

 

[Squints]

So many of us!

You're a buncha cross-breeds.










J/K

 

[VFLnSFD]

The keeping of them isn't even the goal, I don't think. You actually hope they'll leave for jobs as head coaches themselves. Because you'll quickly get known as the incubator for upward coaching mobility, and you'll continue to have the best assistant coaches and position coaches in the nation knocking on the door to be let in.

So it's a dynamic form of excellence, rather than a static one. But still very, very good, right?

This x1000.

 

[Rizzo924]

Beaver is exactly who he says he is. He runs in circles of people in the know. He works in the field he said he does.

What field of work did he say he was in? I must've missed that one.

 

[BJWeeks]

Tweet from MIT:

I love Lagavulin 16! Some people are too scared to try because of the Smokey flavor. Yes, you may get burned the first couple sips but by the third everything will feel just right.

Could mean Gruden said no twice and 3rd time was accepted or I read too much into what he posts and I need a vacation

 

[VFLnSFD]

What field of work did he say he was in? I must've missed that one.

Management consulting

 

[TenUhSee]

i read a post the other day that made sense, but i don't remember who it was.

gruden views himself as a rock star, as well he should. that being said, coaches in the nfl are just coaches. the players are the rock stars.

however, in college coaches are royalty, rock stars, the main attraction, which is why gruden fits college this time around.

interesting thought.

whats also interesting --

Gruden has never been a head coach in college and someone has possibly suggested he couldnt be successful as one . Since JG is a highly competitive guy, he is taking that as a serious personal challenge and wants to prove that he can do it.

just a thought.

 

[Volnbeers]

Could mean Gruden said no twice and 3rd time was accepted or I read too much into what he posts and I need a vacation

lol thats how i read it as well.

we all need help at this point lol

 

[tbones0711]

hawk as a side note..know anyone that was stationed in guam. What life is like there..family about to be headed there

a snake infested hellhole

 

[SmokeyLives]

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