Official Jon Gruden Thread XXVII

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It’s blasphemy to mention the names Campbell and Bobo in the Gruden thread. The Grude is displeased by your lack of faith. You know who you are
 
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But Larry and others say there’s no power struggle. We’re all just pulling together. Don’t want to fire the coach cause it’ll look bad. 🙄

I don't buy that reason for not firing Butch, AT ALL.

I believe Butch is still on board because of the Kendrick situation.
 
After the Haslam stuff from MIT, I no longer think he's being truthful. Haslam was okay with the JG hire in 2012, even giving his resources to try and make it happen. Haslam and JG are actually friends. Peyton and Haslam are friends. Haslam has spent literally 9 figures at UT. Played for Neyland and wants the best for UT football. It makes absolutely 0 sense that he'd oppose this.

I want Gruden and he's my top choice by far, but this reeks of JG having said thanks but no thanks to coaching here several weeks ago and someone using it to drive ill feelings towards the Haslam family.

It's about control. They may want what is best for TN but what they think is best has led us to this point today. They approved:

1. Firing of Fulmer: highly debated at the time and mistake in hindsight

2. Hiring of Kiffin: mostly applauded at the time but a mistake in hindsight

3. Hiring of Dooley: a mistake everyone saw at the time

4. Hiring of Hart:...

5. Hiring of Butch: debated and ultimately didn't workout out though he has done some good things like clean-up up the academic stuff

6. Forced Currie hire on everyone: still up for debate

7. Outside of giving money, what positive has their position of power given TN?
 
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Some wonder why Haslam would favor having control over the success of the football team. They point to the Browns. "What? Does he want us to be the Browns"? Thing is i'm sure in HIS mind...the Browns are fine. They aren't the dumpster fire everyone thinks they are. Just going through a transition period. I'm sure the Haslams feel in their mind that THEY know what's best for UT. That the university is best off under THEIR influence and control. We could tell him for hours on end how bad their crappy Browns team is...or how bad UT has been under their influence...but they don't see it that way. They think their way is best...even though we're down now...THEY (Haslams) want UT back as a national power...but they are the ones to eventually get us back to that. Imo.
As a Cowboy fan, this sounds about like 1996-2014 with Jerry Jones! :cray:
 
I can't, but I wish someone with access to TOS would go in the thread about Gruden's credentials for the game and post the image here.

Nothing to it. Hubbs said he deleted it because there was a red "x" and no image in it. Assumed it was trolling.

It ended up being that stupid Dollywood fake pass.
 
Don't think he is that deep since the Fulmer days.

Well those are the names he referenced when I asked who his contacts were. He didn't hide it...

That said I dont believe there are but maybe two handfulls of people who know what is going on.

Oh and Butch should be fired and I dont see any benefit for him remaining the coach.
 
But Larry and others say there’s no power struggle. We’re all just pulling together. Don’t want to fire the coach cause it’ll look bad. 🙄

Yes we can't be mean to our 0-5sec record coach in his fifth damn year. Every other school would have already fired him and not apologize for having done so. Everything is backwards at UT- pay millions for facilities instead of the coaches, take forever to make hires often with drama but knee jerk reactions to other things, let academics run our biggest money maker and wonder why it's such a mess.
 
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If everyone is on the same page and Ergen is set on Gruden and willing to pony up the $$$$ then what is the problem. Apparently they aren't on the same page.
 
I apologize if I offended anyone when I didn't use gender neutral terms. I corrected it above, I substituted child for son.

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