Official Jon Gruden Thread XXVI

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goooooovols said:
What are your thought on what is currently happening with our football program and what do you see likely happening given your sourced knowledge?
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I think it's visibly in shambles right now, which is embarrassing to me. However, I'm told it's not as bad as it appears and things are largely under control, with everything being done for a purpose and outcome.

Who knows? I just roll with what I'm told by those I trust, most of which I no longer post, because let's face it...you people are nuckin' futs.

I'm enjoying the ride and am optimistic of the direction we're headed....in part because they MUST get it right this time.
 
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Jake said:
Yes, which really started the downward spiral at UCLA in 2008 when we lost and fell out of the Top 25 with an extremely talented football team.
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I also believe that Kelly Washington dramatically changed the team dynamics. That was long before the official downfall though.
 
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VFLnSFD said:
Yesterday bev's office released a statement that the Knoxville campus would not be outsourcing the facilities management. This goes expressly against the wishes of the governor...her boss. Hubbs tweeted out the statement which is uncharacteristic and indicates he was told to. It may be the first signal that stuff is getting done.
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Thanks SFD, saved me a ton of time.
 
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2EastTnVols said:
Maybe with the firing of CPF. Then gloss over Kiffin & Dooley & Butch's first few years.
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The downturn, in my opinion, began when Rohan Davey got injured and was subsequently replaced by Mauck in the '01 SECCG.

The bleeding was postponed when Cut returned for the '06 and '07 seasons, but after Cut's departure to Duke, the wheels came completely off.

The decisions that were made leading up to and following the Fulmer debacle only further cemented our fate to this point.
 
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Grand Vol said:
DynaLo already sold you out. She broke under interrogation and admitted you tried holding them in the hot tub. She told everything she knew to this investigator.

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Sorry gals...I got distracted....it was the abs....
 
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VersaceButch said:
Yes. It is official. From actual credentialed media.

Interesting that it makes no mention as to whether that protocol was followed though.

Speculate as you will.
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It doesn’t appear to be the whole document.

That said, as an attorney I read this snippet as saying “we have all of the right protocols in place. If a player played with a concussion that got through layers of trained medical staff, including independent third party control, all with the independent ability to remove a player at risk, its not the fault of any one person.”
 
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Jake said:
That’s very interesting...please elaborate.
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He was such a pre-madonna and I think that fulmer let him be which was uncharacteristic for fulmer. I think it opened the door for the overall team dynamics to be more about me me me and less about team.
 
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daj2576 said:
It doesn’t appear to be the whole document.

That said, as an attorney I read this snippet as saying “we have all of the right protocols in place. If a player played with a concussion that got through layers of trained medical staff, including independent third party control, all with the independent ability to remove a player at risk, its not the fault of any one person.”
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Aka.....it wasn't Butch's fault. That's how I took it.
 
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VFLnSFD said:
He was such a pre-madonna and I think that fulmer let him be which was uncharacteristic for fulmer. I think it opened the door for the overall team dynamics to be more about me me me and less about team.
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Better than a post-madonna, if you ask me
 
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VFLnSFD said:
Listen, it is obvious that you have a problem with me. I truly don't care. But the guy is just trying to stir up trouble.

I don't disagree that he is on topic, but trying to light the torches of a lynch mob for people whose information we (as a collective) rely on is not cool. These things are fluid and can change by the minute. I think folks who are still on board here get that.
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This...... If someone wants to discuss their opinion and it differs from mine, I am fine with that.... but these people come in here and try to prove that the information being provided is false (they go about it from a negative viewpoint) If they have something to add, or they have information contrary to what is being presented ... then I welcome it... I welcome All information as I try to view the situation we have.

But I grow weary of the constant "It will not happen" stuff with no information to back it up when what I believe is at least based on the information I have obtained
 
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VFLnSFD said:
I also believe that Kelly Washington dramatically changed the team dynamics. That was long before the official downfall though.
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Got to disagree here. The fans couldn't stand his "persona", but the players loved that guy. He was NOT a problem in the locker room.
 
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VFLnSFD said:
I also believe that Kelly Washington dramatically changed the team dynamics. That was long before the official downfall though.
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Ding, ding, ding...Right there^! KW was a cancer in the locker room and was the beginning of the end for CPF. Always have thought this.
 
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