Official Jon Gruden Thread XXV

[austin_vol]

No idea if true so don't take it as gospel

Saw this too and also the next tweet saying lawyers are involved

 

[BleedorangeinGA]

No idea if true so don't take it as gospel

Beth has already come out and blasted this rumor as complete bull****

Our fan base is so toxic man.

 

[Nash_Vol97]

Eh, I'm not sure that's a good way to look at it. It wouldn't change the BATNA because the BATNA is the state you are in if no deal happens.

Pareto and KH are about the outcomes of a deal. Kinda like evaluating the opposite of the BATNA, if you will. It quantifies the improvement of a deal over the BATNA, and you should accept when you cannot manipulate the deal to improve your outcome. Sometimes, those concepts are used to refer to the OVERALL position of all parties, meaning that everyone is getting the BEST deal possible (maximum improvement).

As I've always heard it used, KH is used to describe the overall state, while Pareto refers to individual parties (could be my circle of experience though, as an attorney I don't deal with too many people who regularly think in these terms).

My question was about whether Peyton's involvement changed the entire landscape, meaning that when he got involved brand new Pareto improvements were possible - thus making the previous landscape non-KH efficient.

Hopefully that makes sense.

* I could be very wrong in the way I use these terms. I'm a lawyer, not a business professional.

Uh, what?

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Another Gruden thread?

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

Serious question...is that really Hyams dancing in that gif?

 

[knucklehead_vol]

Since your posting 80s - 90s Knoxville bars, I will post one of the best Knoxville bands from that era. The song applies to Gruden threads at times too!

Superdrag - Sucked Out

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQmChykuZ9w[/youtube]

I saw them play in a living room once lol.

 

[DustyRockSolid]

This guy cracks me up. He literally posts this 50 times a day

He is showing great keyboard discipline.

 

[Sstterry]

I know i was joking with him.

You are braver than me to tempt the powers that be
(I know you were joking)

 

[Orange defense]

Would Gruden keep Butch on staff? And if so, does that eliminate the buyout?? Win win.

🤔🤔🤔🤔🗡 recruiting coordinator??

 

[Godfatha]

Serious question...is that really Hyams dancing in that gif?

lol yes although I don't think it's at the Grand Canyon

 

[patrick]

Oh...likely I spilled some warm beer on you at some point.

I'm sure - it really is a small world.

Im in Atlanta now - only been here for 6 months or so.

 

[sona]

I saw them play in a living room once lol.

Nice! Every catch these guys?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJdQakH8Tec[/youtube]

 

[Jimmy Football]

Beth has already come out and blasted this rumor as complete bull****

Our fan base is so toxic man.

Don't put that on the fanbase.

 

[Godfatha]

🤔🤔🤔🤔🗡 recruiting coordinator??

Equipment manager. I think he was that for the Bucs?

 

[Volsfaninva917]

Beth has already come out and blasted this rumor as complete bull****

Our fan base is so toxic man.

Got ya

 

[patrick]

Man I wish I could remember the names of the bars. I remember BW3. What was the place on 3rd and Gay? I think it's called Annie's now?

BW3 was above the Melting Pot.

 

[B EaZy40]

Tall Paul is still playing as far as I know backed the boat into Calhouns a couple years ago and saw him. Two of my best friends met at a Tall Paul show and have been married a long time.

He is still playing. Just won a Grammy on a collaboration with another artist out of Nashville. Damn cool!

 

[EZE]

But not if we don’t make a bowl game right? Doesn’t that reduce the buyout? It just baffles me how all of this is being played out.

We are 0-5 in SEC play!! 0-5! Florida just fired there coach who had back to back east crowns bc he said he was getting death threats! But they beat us and yet we’re still here with I can’t coach Jones.

Something doesn’t make sense why he is still here. I thought the theory of “him finishing the season instead of interim to hold the team together” but I just don’t buy it. Why keep him? If we’re already 0-5 in league play, How is firing him and having an interim worse than what we have?

I don’t buy it either. I think something is very wrong.

 

[butchna]

Where will Butch be coaching next year?

A. Head coach at P5
B. Head coach at G5
C. Coordinator at P5
D. NFL assistant
E. Unemployed
F. On fries with Blackburn moved up to grill

 

[VolunteerHillbilly]

I only caught the end of Finebaum. He and Laura were insinuating that Currie has a big name coach on the line, or maybe they were just saying he better have one in light of UF being so proactive. I'd love to know more if anyone heard more.

 

[Ft.MyersVols]

I saw them play in a living room once lol.

We had Drivin n Cryin play in our apartment one night. Lived at Grand Forest Townhomes right off 17th (?) street and had a roommate in a band called the Used. They opened for DnC that night and got them to come over. Really cool...

Same night my brother humped a moose in the pool...long story.

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

lol yes although I don't think it's at the Grand Canyon

I literally laughed out loud

 

[Hawkpilot]

Okay, that makes complete sense. Like I said elsewhere, I'm not familiar enough with these terms to use them totally fluently.

I did a bit more reading in the last few minutes, and I am realizing the ways I was wrong.

Would it be proper to say that Peyton's fundraising is to accommodate a perceived value loss by another party to the deal (Academics?)?

I understood what you were saying by "opposite of BANTA." From a quick read on KH it appears the values can be perceived to better but in the end may not be..is this based on PM's fund raising. It's an unknown variable.

 

[Wilson27]

Serious question...is that really Hyams dancing in that gif?

HAHA! Yes, someone shot a video of him dancing a few years back. I heard he was none too pleased about it. So, at every chance someone post it, please.

 

[Hawkpilot]

Trying to get an average for this thread. At one point I felt like we were hovering around 80%.

I'm 65-70%