Official Jon Gruden Thread XXI

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#1,927
#1,927
Maybe his reason for still being here went down like...

Butch: I'll take a reduced buyout if you just let me finish the season and prove our resiliance and that I can turn it around.
Currie: Deal. But if you don't make it to a bowl game to cover our falling attendance, I'm sending this guy Ape your phone numbers and address...

Seriously, at this point and after hearing that pitifully lame press conference, I do believe now he is here the rest of the year unless they lose to Kentucky. At that point there would be absolutely no excuse for keeping him. None. Hopefully there is a silver lining I am missing as I am skeptical (but hopeful) of the Grude-one actually being the next coach... Even at this point would take a minimum of Gruden to save this recruiting class no matter what.
 
#1,928
#1,928
Something is up with him either good or bad-for us that is. He isn't red faced anymore, he seems to have checked out and isn't coaching for his life anymore. He is driving this team and school in the ground and doesn't care because all he wants is is buyout and will continue to destroy the program till he gets what he wants.

I know it's bad for Currie to keep him here but it seems that he wants to ruin Jones as much a Jones wants to ruin the program.

JMHO
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
At this point I'm really beginning to wonder if he's even actually on the hot seat at all. I mean sure we are all pissed off and ranting. The media is talking about it more and more everyday. Yet, Lyle Allen is going about things like it's business as usual and Currie's biggest concern is tennis. Here I've been worried about us being trolled by some random guy on a message board and it's looking like the real troll job might be coming from the program itself.
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Rest assured, his ars is on fire!!
 
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vmivol00 said:
Not all from my class. One that was a class ahead of me, one a class behind me, and another behind that.

One is doc in Cincinnati now.
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Interesting. My point was that going to a public school puts you at a huge disadvantage. It's very rare and the fact that you knew 3 people at MIT alone is an anomaly. Also, I don't want to turn this into a race thing, but that comes into play even though universities will deny it to the death. White and middle class puts you at a disadvantage when applying for college. For example, I knew another guy in my senior class at Cleveland. His parents were from Africa (they were immigrants) so he was first generation American. He had a GPA that was .5 lower than mine and he scored 9 points lower than me on the ACT. Very similar extracurriculars. We both applied to Vandy and we both got in. They offered him 30k per year in scholarships and I didn't get offered a cent. No hard feelings about it or anything, I'm just pointing out that college admission offices do care about these things.
 
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Doyle Hargraves said:
At this point I'm really beginning to wonder if he's even actually on the hot seat at all. I mean sure we are all pissed off and ranting. The media is talking about it more and more everyday. Yet, Lyle Allen is going about things like it's business as usual and Currie's biggest concern is tennis. Here I've been worried about us being trolled by some random guy on a message board and it's looking like the real troll job might be coming from the program itself.
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He's not on the hot seat. If only the common man could take the reins from the powers that be
 
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#1,933
How are we not doing anything... it just seems crazy I may be happy at end all this but at this point are we even sure butch is gone lol?
 
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I'm trying to be optimistic and sane, so hear me out. What if Currie is waiting till the end of the season to fire Jones because Gruden asked him to do it? Out of respect for Jones. I don't know what to think anymore. Im just baffled that Butch hasn't been fired and trying to come up with any explanation for keeping him still.
 
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I will stir the pot some more. In 2012, remember there was one newspaper that reported on the Gruden affair, and it was the Chattanooga paper. That reporter most likely got his information from a source in that city. So, maybe the push for Gruden came from the Chattanooga crowd then and is again. And maybe the resistance was in Knoxville then and now.

Who knows? But it is possible.
 
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#1ManningFan said:
I'm trying to be optimistic and sane, so hear me out. What if Currie is waiting till the end of the season to fire Jones because Gruden asked him to do it? Out of respect for Jones. I don't know what to think anymore. Im just baffled that Butch hasn't been fired and trying to come up with any explanation for keeping him still.
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You won't be able to justify it because you don't know all the facts. There are hundreds of moving parts and pieces behind the scenes. The AD is making the decision based on all the information he has and in the best interest of the university.
 
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The thing that is truly sad is that if Butch would have learned to be a hands off manager of his staff instead of a meathead micro-manager it would not have come to this.
 
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JFreak said:
Whoa wtf? Since when does research based = liberal? If you want your graduates ready for the real world then send them to a service academy or boot camp. Isn't going to happen at a state university.
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Because the end goal is about research projects and not preparing someone how to make money in the real world. As I said, some research is fine. But UT was established as a land grant university. There was a reason why it was.
 
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#1ManningFan said:
I'm trying to be optimistic and sane, so hear me out. What if Currie is waiting till the end of the season to fire Jones because Gruden asked him to do it? Out of respect for Jones. I don't know what to think anymore. Im just baffled that Butch hasn't been fired and trying to come up with any explanation for keeping him still.
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The notion that firing Butch immediately is the clear and obvious right decision is a bit obtuse. It's at least possible that keeping him for now is in the best interest of the program. It could be a simple financial matter, it could be at the request of JG, it could be part of a negotiated departure with Butch, or it could some other reason.

Until it all plays out, and we know the final outcome, I am content to give the AD the benefit of the doubt.
 
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EZE said:
I will stir the pot some more. In 2012, remember there was one newspaper that reported on the Gruden affair, and it was the Chattanooga paper. That reporter most likely got his information from a source in that city. So, maybe the push for Gruden came from the Chattanooga crowd then and is again. And maybe the resistance was in Knoxville then and now.

Who knows? But it is possible.
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His main source was from South Pittsburg
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
The notion that firing Butch immediately is the clear and obvious right decision is a bit obtuse. It's at least possible that keeping him for now is in the best interest of the program. It could be a simple financial matter, it could be at the request of JG, it could be part of a negotiated departure with Butch, or it could some other reason.

Until it all plays out, and we know the final outcome, I am content to give the AD the benefit of the doubt.
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This. 100% this.
 
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Shutting it down for the year. Came to the realization this morning it's just not worth the time investment to follow all the nonsense which is TN football, both on the field and off. Our track record of decision making leads me to believe things will continue to get worse and we'll address mediocrity with a mid-level hire. That's who we are.

Have better things to do at this point and plenty of hobbies looking for attention.. Assuming I'm not alone here. Good luck to those holding out hoping for a 'splash' hire. See ya next decade when perhaps Saban rides off into the sunset.
 
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Maybe Currie’s message to us was that image/video of him lingering after the loss Saturday. He can’t talk about what he’s doing so he sent a message with his body language. That’s all I got.
 
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SaintLouisVol said:
The notion that firing Butch immediately is the clear and obvious right decision is a bit obtuse. It's at least possible that keeping him for now is in the best interest of the program. It could be a simple financial matter, it could be at the request of JG, it could be part of a negotiated departure with Butch, or it could some other reason.

Until it all plays out, and we know the final outcome, I am content to give the AD the benefit of the doubt.
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Good point and agree. :good!:
 
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