Official Jon Gruden Thread XXI

[RagingOrange]

Umm, didn't Beaver predict this as well (re: Garner's tweet)

Refresh me

 

[RockCityVol]

There is the next piece. At some point I remember hearing that TT wasn't as involved this time. Also the only time the Beaver had threatened to leave was at the suggestion that he is RT.

Interesting

 

[OrangeInKy]

I wrecked my car on the east end of Magnolia Ave back in High School 20+ years ago. Guy came up to me and said I drove like Mario Andretti. Assumed it was a compliment considering I landed perfectly in a shopping center parking space right next to a Corvette for sale. Bottom of my car didn't far so well though.

I think I might know you.
Sidenote: My brother totaled his employer's new sports car in a parking lot of a store in Knoxville

 

[preacherwebb]

Man, I will believe Gruden is the head football coach at UT when I see him at the podium. I hope it happens. But I was here in 12, and will not get my hopes up too high again.

i was here in 12, got my hopes up and dashed.
i'm here again, hopes sky high ... if i'm dashed again (that's not necessarily gruden or bust mind you, but no blue light specials) i'm out.
won't care next time.

 

[#1ManningFan]

I'm so restless it's beyond :crazy: I want Jones fired yesterday. My wife wants Jones fired just for my mental sake. Gruden or no Gruden at this point I just want to see Jones booted to the curb! Soon?

 

[VolsFanJC]

Just because money isn't an issue doesn't mean they wont try to save a couple million if they can lol. Come on man!

I can see that but still feel like, when analyzing the the gain vs. the loss in this scenario, that the loss of not pulling the trigger now out weighs the gain of saving a couple of million that could easily be recouped in increased ticket and merchandise sales. JMHO

 

[preacherwebb]

If Manning is really on board with Gruden, then so am I. Gruden does know football and is a QB guru. My only concern is that he's NOT a college coach. But, I'm certain that he could get top recruits to UT and have the Vols competing with Alabama again.

he's not a college coach, but he's a high school coach and works with high school and college athletes and coaches thru his ffca ... amirite? seriously, i think all that's accurate?.

 

[RagingOrange]

Just because money isn't an issue doesn't mean they wont try to save a couple million if they can lol. Come on man!

Exactly. People who have money are tightwads.

 

[DynaLo]

Hey SFD, have you ever read Section 3.2.8 of Butch's contract?

"In its sole discretion, the University may elect to terminate this Agreement for cause under this Section 3.2 but offer Coach continued employment with or without a new employment agreement."

🤔

What would qualify as a justification of “for cause” based on what is outlined in the contract? Unless something happened that’s been kept well under wraps, I’m not seeing anything pop out.

 

[Doyle Hargraves]

Just because money isn't an issue doesn't mean they wont try to save a couple million if they can lol. Come on man!

While I agree with you to a certain extent, it would just be looking at the money side in the short term. If you hire the right guy (Gruden) that would energize the fanbase into a frenzy the long term profits would far outweigh any short term savings. Assuming the rumors are true and Tennessee has Gruden in their pocket, going ahead and firing Jones now would be a sound investment. Each day that passes keeping Jones employed is money lost.

It's this reasoning that has me doubting MIT's story and starting to question if Gruden has been anywhere near to taking the job at all.

 

[BearCat204]

Gruden coached Oakland from 98-01
Garner played in Oakland from 01-03

Gruden coached Tampa Bay from 02-08
Garner played in Tampa Bay in 04

So, they were together for 2 seasons!

He was also the OC in Philly while Gardner was there for 2 years.

 

[EZE]

i was here in 12, got my hopes up and dashed.
i'm here again, hopes sky high ... if i'm dashed again (that's not necessarily gruden or bust mind you, but no blue light specials) i'm out.
won't care next time.

If there is a next time, I’m sure we will all convene here again. It eases the disappointment of where this program has fallen.

 

[RagingOrange]

What would qualify as a justification of “for cause” based on what is outlined in the contract? Unless something happened that’s been kept well under wraps, I’m not seeing anything pop out.

A la laying hands on players...

 

[preacherwebb]

While I agree with you to a certain extent, it would just be looking at the money side in the short term. If you hire the right guy (Gruden) that would energize the fanbase into a frenzy the long term profits would far outweigh any short term savings. Assuming the rumors are true and Tennessee has Gruden in their pocket, going ahead and firing Jones now would be a sound investment. Each day that passes keeping Jones employed is money lost.

It's this reasoning that has me doubting MIT's story and starting to question if Gruden has been anywhere near to taking the job at all.

well ... .... ..... ...... ....... ........ ......... .......... that makes sense. ouch for me.

 

[Kid Deezy]

I can see that but still feel like, when analyzing the the gain vs. the loss in this scenario, that the loss of not pulling the trigger now out weighs the gain of saving a couple of million that could easily be recouped in increased ticket and merchandise sales. JMHO

If boosters are footing the bill for the buyout would they see any money from the tickets/merch???

 

[preacherwebb]

If there is a next time, I’m sure we will all convene here again. It eases the disappointment of where this program has fallen.

if there is a next time, doubt i'll be here. just sayin.

 

[wildorange]

If boosters are footing the bill for the buyout would they see any money from the tickets/merch???

They should for sure if that is the case, but I have no idea how that works. SOON!!!! GBO!!!!!!

 

[EZE]

While I agree with you to a certain extent, it would just be looking at the money side in the short term. If you hire the right guy (Gruden) that would energize the fanbase into a frenzy the long term profits would far outweigh any short term savings. Assuming the rumors are true and Tennessee has Gruden in their pocket, going ahead and firing Jones now would be a sound investment. Each day that passes keeping Jones employed is money lost.

It's this reasoning that has me doubting MIT's story and starting to question if Gruden has been anywhere near to taking the job at all.

This is where I am too. If Gruden was in the bag, people would be too excited to keep it quiet.

 

[G8rh8r]

Ok guys, I just got back from my run. About 2/3rds of the way done right when things were seeming desperate, I saw it.....a white squirrel. I've never seen a white squirrel ever and I run daily, but there it was. It's a sign. I'm all in.

 

[UTVolinExile]

What would qualify as a justification of “for cause” based on what is outlined in the contract? Unless something happened that’s been kept well under wraps, I’m not seeing anything pop out.

Section 3.2.2 defines "for cause." There are 18 items there. Read through them and see if any jump out at you.

 

[Power T-Rev]

etsu

Don't you put that evil on the tri-cities, Ricky Bobby

 

[Sparkyvol10]

No boro, beaver, DTO, or bubba yet today?

 

[G8rh8r]

No boro, beaver, DTO, or bubba yet today?

Beav is jet setting today.

 

[preacherman4vols]

Insiders have all disappeared

 

[JohnnyVolunteer]

VFL tweet

Didn’t MIT say VFL’s would start dropping cryptic teeets/hints? Not saying I believe but...