Official Jon Gruden Thread XXI

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gonna repost this, 'cause i honestly believe this, and i think people are missing it while waiting for mit posts or something. it's my cospiracy theory, and i'm sticking to it.

here is what's happening folks.

the people that know boosters are claiming the deal is pretty much agreed to, because the boosters and back channel people have been in unofficial preliminary negotiations with gruden and his people, which he has agreed to.

the people that know a.d. folks are being told no john gruden. they can't possibly own up to all this right now. hence, all the conflicting misinformation we keep hearing about the same time every day this week plus the influx of posters with 2 weeks and 15 posts to their credit.

now when butch is gone, business will pick up, because we'll actually have an opening.
even more smokescreen until such a time gruden is announced.

like a woman having a baby, everybody is happy. no body remembers the excrutiating pain of the whole process.

currie = rock star
gruden = ut football savior

maybe i'm :crazy:
maybe i just wanna believe, and this narrative allows me to keep doing that.
time'll tell.
 
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Coastypop said:
Did not see that coming
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Assuming Gruden is the next head coach I hope he has plan on how to implement his offense in college. His offense is confusing for a team of pros imagine his offense to a team of student atheletes. I think that could be the biggest downside with Gruden. On the flip side his offense could easily be sold as the place to go and learn a real NFL offense. Also he has worked with a lot of QBs coming out of college and I'm sure has a good understanding of the verbiage they use along with how they call plays.
 
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preacherwebb said:
gonna repost this, 'cause i honestly believe this, and i think people are missing it while waiting for mit posts or something. it's my cospiracy theory, and i'm sticking to it.

here is what's happening folks.

the people that know boosters are claiming the deal is pretty much agreed to, because the boosters and back channel people have been in unofficial preliminary negotiations with gruden and his people, which he has agreed to.

the people that know a.d. folks are being told no john gruden. they can't possibly own up to all this right now. hence, all the conflicting misinformation we keep hearing about the same time every day this week plus the influx of posters with 2 weeks and 15 posts to their credit.

now when butch is gone, business will pick up, because we'll actually have an opening.
even more smokescreen until such a time gruden is announced.

like a woman having a baby, everybody is happy. no body remembers the excrutiating pain of the whole process.

currie = rock star
gruden = ut football savior

maybe i'm :crazy:
maybe i just wanna believe, and this narrative allows me to keep doing that.
time'll tell.
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Can somebody let us know if they see shepherds arriving in Knoxville?
 
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This thread has been amazing to follow. Props to all of you, trolls and insiders both. Honestly I don’t care if y’all hire Gruden or some Pee-Wee coach. I’m always down to read some good rumors well excuse me, grumors. I guess we will all know .....soon....
 
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1allvol said:
Why would he have to “iron out a deal to stay the full season and get his buyout”??? That wouldn’t need to be ironed out, if he stays, and gets fired, whether today or at end of season, he gets a buyout. The only thing that would need to be negotiated is if he agreed to a lessor buyout but gets to stay till end of the season. I understand that was just a theory, but it doesn’t hold water. Other than money, there is no benefit to keeping Butch another day longer. We have multiple people in place that would be adequate as interim.

I think most of us have the fear that this team finds a way, in spite of Butch, to win out, or at least win 3 or 4 of the next 5, which then makes the firing more difficult. As bad as we have played, the 5 left on our schedule certainly can be beaten by a motivated, determined UT squad.
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Exactly. The only reason would be to save money. Which I don't get since, from the very beginning, it has been stated that money was not an obstacle this time around. Anyone able to shine some light on this for me, as I'm sure I'm not seeing all of the angles here.
 
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VolsFanJC said:
Exactly. The only reason would be to save money. Which I don't get since, from the very beginning, it has been stated that money was not an obstacle this time around. Anyone able to shine some light on this for me, as I'm sure I'm not seeing all of the angles here.
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Just because money isn't an issue doesn't mean they wont try to save a couple million if they can lol. Come on man!
 
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preacherwebb said:
took me a second.
my first response was ... ?????
then i got it and thought ... :salute:

my question is, do you agree?
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Man, I will believe Gruden is the head football coach at UT when I see him at the podium. I hope it happens. But I was here in 12, and will not get my hopes up too high again.
 
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VolsFanJC said:
Exactly. The only reason would be to save money. Which I don't get since, from the very beginning, it has been stated that money was not an obstacle this time around. Anyone able to shine some light on this for me, as I'm sure I'm not seeing all of the angles here.
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if, again, IF, mit is right, the academic side forcing the athletic side and booster to foot the ENTIRE bill for the buyout plus the raise on coach and staff ... i'd say they'd want to save all the money they could ... all which lends to the idea that the boosters have gruden on the hook and they know it
 
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Hey SFD, have you ever read Section 3.2.8 of Butch's contract?

"In its sole discretion, the University may elect to terminate this Agreement for cause under this Section 3.2 but offer Coach continued employment with or without a new employment agreement."

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beachmaster said:
My eyes still hurt from last nights posts. I couldn't read fast enough to keep up. I thought I had broken my refresh keys. I finally quit and just went to bed. Anyway, I have a hard time believing Butch is fired today because if so, they wouldn't have let him have his pc yesterday. JMO.
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You need to work on your "Eye Discipline". :eek:lol:
 
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volgr said:
Garner played for Gruden in both Oakland and Tampa Bay.
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Gruden coached Oakland from 98-01
Garner played in Oakland from 01-03

Gruden coached Tampa Bay from 02-08
Garner played in Tampa Bay in 04

So, they were together for 2 seasons!
 
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Vols_14 said:
Assuming Gruden is the next head coach I hope he has plan on how to implement his offense in college. His offense is confusing for a team of pros imagine his offense to a team of student atheletes. I think that could be the biggest downside with Gruden. On the flip side his offense could easily be sold as the place to go and learn a real NFL offense. Also he has worked with a lot of QBs coming out of college and I'm sure has a good understanding of the verbiage they use along with how they call plays.
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If Manning is really on board with Gruden, then so am I. Gruden does know football and is a QB guru. My only concern is that he's NOT a college coach. But, I'm certain that he could get top recruits to UT and have the Vols competing with Alabama again.
 
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