Official Jon Gruden Thread XX

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LWSVOL said:
I have gotten various feedback on when he might be terminated all week. everything from today to end of season. I have not had anyone say they believe he will be back next season. I don't believe he will be back..

I'm afraid a bowl game is a long shot also.. I think we likely lose this Saturday and that could be the trigger for a firing.
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Butch is a band aid. Rip it off.

Larry, I appreciate the info you bring and the dedication to the University. You may not always say what we want to hear but I respect you.
 
#5,727
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LWSVOL said:
I have gotten various feedback on when he might be terminated all week. everything from today to end of season. I have not had anyone say they believe he will be back next season. I don't believe he will be back..



I'm afraid a bowl game is a long shot also.. I think we likely lose this Saturday and that could be the trigger for a firing.
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For sure what I have heard and you heard about that matches 100%

My information no where good as your


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Yeah if the bull about Gruden worried about friendships has any merit whatsoever, he isn't going to Cleveland. I certainly don't see his wife wanting to go there. I still think most everybody is guessing. I do think some are getting info, and that they probably think it is correct. No matter what this administration better be able to see outside of it's own self. Get your act together, Tennessee and it's fans deserve better. While your doing your planning think about the lost revenue of a FAIL hire. Think real long about it. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! We need leadership NOW! GBO!!!!!!
 
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aRmo said:
I understand the fanbase wants a proven coach. but the thing is there isnt a proven coach that wants to take this job. Many schools have struck gold with up and comer coaches. Georgia has lived off that for a long time now. Florida does the same thing. Im not looking for a huge name hire here. Its going to be someone like.

Frost
Brohm
Cambell
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The issue with me is not the up and comer. Its the people who have been trying to choose the right up and comer.
 
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Sorry if TL;DR, but some ramblings thoughts on Currie, the search and future of UT football. I'm not as meticulous as SFD in my research or have a lot of backing, some, but some is opinion. Anyway, random musings...

- First off, Currie wants to be here. Sure, he had a lot of heat at K-State for some of the decisions he made, but by and large, the fact he ran a surplus on the budget meant the powers that be were going to remain happy. However, he chose to come from a program that he could have stayed at to come to UT. Knowing this:

- He knows what our money situation is, probably has looked at the last five to ten years of financial statements and realizes how much more football can/will pump into additional programs with the right name hire.

- He came in knowing full well what the situation was and how unhappy our fans are in a couple of different sports. WBB and Football namely.

- He likely knows what needs to be done, financially speaking, in order to right the ship and continue moving forward. He's not in a situation where the head coach's name is on the stadium. He has no loyalty to Jones.

- He knew, or should have known, the key players in the booster realm coming in. Namely because of his time here before.

- He knows the fans are hungry for a return of prominence in UT Football. He knows (should know) this hire is a make or break for him at Tennessee.

- He knows how far a name can and will go in a HC position. Bill Snyder is a name the Wildcats know and love, regardless of the record at the end of the season. Not quite the same with Jones...

- He's not afraid to rock the boat when it comes to coach hirings and firings. He didn't hesitate to pull the trigger on the most successful WBB coach at K-State. I doubt very seriously he's going to hesitate when it comes time to lower the boom on Jones.

Now, where it gets muddy...

- He has no lead AD experience in hiring for a big position like a head football coach. Not saying he can't, but there is no precedent in hiring the coach of the flagship sports program of a university.

- He is being very quiet about this. Not that it's a bad thing, but it's not helping us in regards to the when and if it happens. But, it appears the wheels are turning. He never mentioned the Lady Vol logo until it just came out. He knows how to keep things quiet. Which does suck for us.

- Loyalty to the boosters or the university? Does he convince the boosters he's right in his ideas for a head coach or does he allow himself to be pushed into a decision by the major money men? I'm not saying either side has ill intentions, but when money talks, sometimes common sense takes a back seat.

I honestly believe he's being very crafty in his search as well as who he has in mind. I think he knows very well what a name like Gruden or Kelly can and will do to the fan base. I also think he knows the pitfalls of what a name like Frost or Mullen would do to the fan base. I think he has the money backing him or else there would have been grumblings on that front that might have been heard already.

I tend to give coaches three years to prove or disprove themselves to me. In the case of an AD, they get one shot at making a splash hire in a major program (football, MBB or WBB). Currie probably knows he can make or break himself in the minds of the UT faithful if he knocks this out of the park and/or makes the best effort to. Effort goes a long way with the fans and if it came down to Gruden turning down control and Saban-esque money, nobody will fault the AD for that.

Sorry for the long winded post.
 
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LWSVOL said:
to me all that indicates is that the when not decided yet
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Yeah I am guessing he cannot survive an 0-5 record in SEC ... but that is only a guess

But I never heard after Bama as soon seemed to think


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aRmo said:
I understand the fanbase wants a proven coach. but the thing is there isnt a proven coach that wants to take this job. Many schools have struck gold with up and comer coaches. Georgia has lived off that for a long time now. Florida does the same thing. Im not looking for a huge name hire here. Its going to be someone like.

Frost
Brohm
Cambell
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This is the Gruden thread fool. Get out of here with that crap list
 
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LWSVOL said:
I have gotten various feedback on when he might be terminated all week. everything from today to end of season. I have not had anyone say they believe he will be back next season. I don't believe he will be back..

I'm afraid a bowl game is a long shot also.. I think we likely lose this Saturday and that could be the trigger for a firing.
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Hell why not continue being the laughing stock of the SEC...as long as there are 90k+ in the stands on Saturday, what does the administration care?

Apathy is the only choice for me currently, and has been that way for over 2 years with this staff...it helps.
 
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wildorange said:
Yeah if the bull about Gruden worried about friendships has any merit whatsoever, he isn't going to Cleveland. I certainly don't see his wife wanting to go there. I still think most everybody is guessing. I do think some are getting info, and that they probably think it is correct. No matter what this administration better be able to see outside of it's own self. Get your act together, Tennessee and it's fans deserve better. While your doing your planning think about the lost revenue of a FAIL hire. Think real long about it. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON! We need leadership NOW! GBO!!!!!!
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I have no idea why his family would want to live in the armpit of America
 
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m1al said:
No he won't.. They will stack the box, stuff the 3 or 4 running plays we have and make JG beat them with his arm.. It's the formula to beat UT right now..
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Our offense is on tape so to speak and everyone has it figured out including UMass.
 
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CoachClick said:
Hell why not continue being the laughing stock of the SEC...as long as there are 90k+ in the stands on Saturday, what does the administration care?

Apathy is the only choice for me currently, and has been that way for over 2 years with this staff...it helps.
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After this week, I'm afraid I'm done traveling two hours to Knoxville every Saturday as long as Butch is still there. I'll support the team from the comforts of my couch
 
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