Official Jon Gruden Thread XX

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If Butch has informed the team, do they come out like gangbusters today and play lights out because they are happy, or to give him a good send off, or is the play abissimal (as has been lately) because of the lack of game planning? Thoughts?
 
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See if I got this right VFLnSFD
DD4ME said:
A poster named VFLnSFD has packaged up a pretty convincing narrative. I will not do it justice and it is still largely speculation but she good.


She mainly focuses on how this search has small incidents that seem inconsequential on the surface but could be profound.

1. Rumors of Butch wanting out last year
- Currie starts the wheels moving signified by Fulmers early involvement this year.

2. OrlandoVol posted that he played golf with an ESPN personality that advised the inside rumors were that Gruden was on the chopping block due to restructing and his huge contract.

OrlandoVol posted enough info that I could show you his work bio but will not. I take that as legit info.

3. Rumors of Gruden involved in Knoxville house searches dating back to June around same time as Fulmer's involvement

4. Gruden visits UT but in a more low key fashion than ever seen before

5. Visits an entire fraternity. Cites coincidence that Gruden's son could have gone to any school but chose UT and chose an agricultural fraternity known for one thing:
Handling Smokey on game days...

6. Gruden also rumored to have toured Cherokee and wife toured Knoxville/area with Fulmer's wife - sources include alleged family. The same family that did not speak out last time.

7. Following this visit multiple leaks of disparate posting styles advising that money is not an object for this search.

8. Leaks that Butch brokered a resignation which would technically allowed him to be a sitting coach while UT actually had negotiations.


9. Rumors Butch will coach until after KY. She confirmed his youngest son's last FB is early November, and Gruden is an Assistant coach.

Still ton of speculation but the timeline and coincidences are strong
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FacelessArya said:
I don't know, man. Peeps was calling him out left and right for this detail or that. I ain't the one to ask. Hell, I get him and Hamilton confused.
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Don't forget the theory they are the same person. We really do have some amateur detectives in our midst.
 
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TN Outlaw said:
Oh, theres no doubt he is who he says he is but there is alot of doubt in his info. Some guy knowing all of that info about the buyout, Gruden, salary for Gruden and asst, release date and place for the announcement, that info will be leaked thru past players, Vegas betting line trends, all cuz he talked to somebody on a golf course? That mustve been some talk huh?
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Yea no joke. Join date is suspect too. Maybe we will know more Tuesday as some have alluded to. If Butch is no longer the coach come Monday then we will know some of the info was correct. It's not just MIT that makes me think this will happen. It's all the other noise and all the other pretty reliable people that have chimed in to make it believable. I'm still not sold that Gruden will be the coach but I am sold that there are talks going on and we are doing everything we can to get him.
This is a very important hire and we can not screw this one up. A bad hire and we lose being relevant and it hurts our financials for the next hire. With Butch's buyout we basically end up paying him 6 million a year. If you're going to have to buy someone out then you might as well pay Upfront for a proven coach.
 
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Vols_Life said:
If Butch has informed the team, do they come out like gangbusters today and play lights out because they are happy, or to give him a good send off, or is the play abissimal (as has been lately) because of the lack of game planning. Thoughts?
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They're probably much like us, on a roller coaster they can't get off, crazier than sh*thouse rats.

Probably just trying to get through the day, I'd guess. Feel sorry for them.
 
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Volwark said:
Never been fired, but I absolutely despise the fact that in this country you can be fired for pretty much anything (or nothing at all). One of the bigger injustices out there IMO that just gets glossed over.
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Tennessee is a right to work state... So.. it's a lot worse here. Rumor is there was a guy that was canned for urinating outside.

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tastycar said:
Don't forget the theory they are the same person. We really do have some amateur detectives in our midst.
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I don't think MIT and Thamilton are the same. At least thamilton put all his personal info out for everyone to see. He is willing to take his lumps if wrong. MIT is another story.
 
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BigPoppa said:
I have supervised or managed probably a couple hundred people over the years. I've been present for numerous separations, but only 2 were the direct result of my recommendation to dismiss.

I, too, have run the spectrum of counseling, verbal warnings, retraining, written reprimands, unpaid suspensions, and the personal appeal "please don't leave me no choice but the next step".

I can look in the mirror, and know that I did all I could to salvage their job for them. Some of my colleagues acted like they were playing with board game pieces, but it was never something I ever took lightly.
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Some people are just cold..

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Keep in mind that Peyton plays a lot of golf at the Honors course and Beaver could certainly be good friends with him. If so, that would explain where he is getting information that other "insiders" are not. Don't discount every single person just because they don't have a lot of post.
9 out 10 or trolls but that one could be telling the truth.
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hoop235 said:
Keep in mind that Peyton plays a lot of golf at the Honors course and Beaver could certainly be good friends with him. If so, that would explain where he is getting information that other "insiders" are not. Don't discount every single person just because they don't have a lot of post.
9 out 10 or trolls but that one could be telling the truth.
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A good friend of peyton's would cease to be a good friend of peyton's if he posted what he had learned along with easily identifiable info.
 
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