Recruiting Forum Talk XXXIX

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#901
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Chief Vol 13 said:
I'm thinking it'd take at least 6.5.
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Agreed. Think it would take north of 6 for him to even listen. And then you have the power issue. I don't know if power will be an issue like it supposedly is with Gruden.

I hope they get to that point though and money is not an issue.
 
#902
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VolNRaleighNC said:
TCU won’t let Patterson go. We would have to be north of $6.5M, most likely even higher, for even consideration.

If Patterson is our # 1 and I believe he stays at TCU then we will end up with another underwhelming hire.
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LOTS of $$$ in Fort Worth.

Not happening. Proven winner at a fairly high level. However, even he has had some challenging years but they stuck with him.
 
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Lovesomebigorange said:
What was Bald Bikers wife talking about?
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He’s on his way home from the game. Baldy said he was a booster. Not a Haslam level booster but he still gives a lot. He owns several successful business and teaches business, occasionally at a university near where he lives. I imagine with his donation, he has access. He has mentioned before that he was somewhat involved with hiring our previous coaches. Do y’all not pay attention to what the man posts?
 
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VolNRaleighNC said:
Yup back to reality. Patterson ain’t leaving TCU and both Gruden and C. Kelly are more plausible options. Gruden may not come here and I can live with it but Gruden would have a Carroll/USC and Saban/Alabama type of impact for UT. C. Kelly would be the next closest and it’s a distant 2nd. I would put Patterson 3rd in the impact list. Ironically, Patterson would be the toughest pull though.
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How do you know this about Patterson?
 
#907
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mccrackb said:
Are you laughing out loud because you can only come up with one pass that may or may not be better than the only pass thrown by our slot receiver
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What are you talking about? What game were you watching? His passes weren't off like that. His pocket presence wasn't good which is to be expected right now. But he was much more competent and "ready" than the starter.

Coach has to take the reigns off. The last pass was better than anything Dormady has thrown. WR has to make that catch with the game on the line.
 
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jdhallvols said:
LOTS of $$$ in Fort Worth.

Not happening. Proven winner at a fairly high level. However, even he has had some challenging years but they stuck with him.
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TCU is a private Christian School with a stadium that seats maybe half of what Neyland does. Not saying your wrong about the $$$ and such, but TCU is not to be confused with the Univeristy of Texas or even Texas A&M.
 
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The Breakerboy said:
What are you talking about? What game were you watching? His passes weren't off like that. His pocket presence wasn't good which is to be expected right now. But he was much more competent and "ready" than the starter.

Coach has to take the reigns off. The last pass was better than anything Dormady has thrown. WR has to make that catch with the game on the line.
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Pretty sure he turned off the game before the last drive lol. Wouldn't be surprised if he didn't even watch any of the game.

But that's from the guy who kept defending Dormady left and right even after UF and Umass games
 
#911
#911
Thanks SV I guess his discussions with some at the game didn't go too well according to her post- either about Gruden or other HC names/or why the hell Butch is still our head coach!
 
#913
#913
Drops happen, but Man.... Brandon Johnson had an epic victory slip through his full hands.

Perfect pass under pressure... exactly what, and where it needed to be
 
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Aesius said:
Guy who has been a VQ member for 10 years with 0 posts until tonight just dropped this bit of info:



People are already speculating that it's actually Hubbs on a burner account. Wouldn't be surprised. Writing style is somewhat similar and it seems like something Hubbs would be privy to.
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I hope he’s fired before the Butch Jones show and they just send Fulmer in to break down game film from ‘98 instead.
 
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MrVolton said:
TCU is a private Christian School with a stadium that seats maybe half of what Neyland does. Not saying your wrong about the $$$ and such, but TCU is not to be confused with the Univeristy of Texas or even Texas A&M.
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And yet according to reports TCU's spending for football is $35m while our spending on football is only $28m.

Their stadium is 50k, the student population is 10k, and their athletic dept revenue is $92m. TCU football earns a profit of $19m per year which is used to subsidize other sports programs on campus.

Patterson has been at TCU since he was 37 years old and head coach since he was 39. He's 57 now. He's taken the team from the WAC, to CUSA, to the MWC, and now for the past 6 years to the Big 12. When the new polls come out this week he'll be ranked #5 in the nation. In 2015 he won the Big 12 conference title and earned $5.1m that year including his bonues. He also signed another contract extension at the end of that year that runs through 2022. With 5 years left on his contract he'll be 62 years old.

I would not say it is impossible to get him to come to Tennessee but I'm almost certain it will take a whole lot of beer, maybe an entire brewery.

This article is from January 2015, before the Big 12 title.

Gary Patterson has been the head coach at TCU since 2000. He’s turned down plenty of job offers, because he knows where he fits and where he doesn’t. Along the way, he’s taken TCU through four conferences, now in the Big 12, and a top-five finish this year.

At the AFCA Convention in Louisville last week, Patterson spoke to an assembly of coaches on various topics, including changing jobs, and why some changes aren’t successful.

“A lot of times, I watch guys take jobs, not just in football, but you watch a CEO of a company,” Patterson said. “He’s highly successful, and they pay him a lot of stock options. Then he changes to a very well-known job opportunity, and you see him fail. You’re asking yourself, ’Why?’”

It’s about that fit, and Patterson reflected on a conversation with a school interested in hiring him.

“I remember talking to a person, two times, from a Big Ten school about coming to that place and being the head coach,” Patterson said. “I told him, ‘I’m not from there. You’ve already made the mistake of hiring somebody from outside your region. I’m not that person. Am I a good football coach? Did I watch your school play on TV since I was six years old? Yes.’ Here’s the problem we all have: We go for the money, we go to be a coordinator or head coach, but do we fit? Do we fit that university? If you’re not a good fit, if you don’t catch on, if you’re not like their constituent group, you don’t fit there.

“I’m a beer drinker, but they’re wine drinkers. It’s not going to work. I don’t care what offense you run. I don’t care what defense you run. I don’t care how good of a coach you are. You’ve got to understand and look past money, past facilities, past the way it looked on TV. Just like I looked at it at TCU, I knew I was only going to get one chance.”
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Gary Patterson: 'I don't care what you run; do you fit?'
 
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ChattaTNVol said:
And yet according to reports TCU's spending for football is $35m while our spending on football is only $28m.

Their stadium is 50k, the student population is 10k, and their athletic dept revenue is $92m. TCU football earns a profit of $19m per year which is used to subsidize other sports programs on campus.

Patterson has been at TCU since he was 37 years old and head coach since he was 39. He's 57 now. He's taken the team from the WAC, to CUSA, to the MWC, and now for the past 6 years to the Big 12. When the new polls come out this week he'll be ranked #5 in the nation. In 2015 he won the Big 12 conference title and earned $5.1m that year including his bonues. He also signed another contract extension at the end of that year that runs through 2022. With 5 years left on his contract he'll be 62 years old.

I would not say it is impossible to get him to come to Tennessee but I'm almost certain it will take a whole lot of beer, maybe an entire brewery.

This article is from January 2015, before the Big 12 title.




Gary Patterson: 'I don't care what you run; do you fit?'
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Welp... he ain’t coming
 
#921
#921
Just a random observation...

Barring Trey Smith, overall every OL butch has recruited since he has been here has been very poor. We almost never dominate the line of scrimmage even agaisnt MUCH worse teams. No push, ever.

I think it's a combination of scheme, coaching, and projects we recruit.
 
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Catbone said:
Just a random observation...

Barring Trey Smith, overall every OL butch has recruited since he has been here has been very poor. We almost never dominate the line of scrimmage even agaisnt MUCH worse teams. No push, ever.

I think it's a combination of scheme, coaching, and projects we recruit.
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There's no continuity during practice at all. I didn't play line but I know we never switched players constantly and made them learn every position. We had the best 5 guys practice at their position and it didn't change. Add a zone blocking scheme that creates constant missed assignments and this is what you get.
 
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#924
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Darth_Shiveman said:
It’s gonna be a Frost/Brohm type hire. Maybe we can get Mullen if he really does want out of Starkville.


The good thing is that all the names we’ll see pursued are better coaches than Butch.
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That quote from Patterson is discouraging because he gets it 💯

At this point I would say

Not happening
Gruden
Kelly
Patterson
Peterson
Willingham

At looks like Tier 2 is our top end, which is what I expected 😒. Unfortunately I think they will pursue a bigger name, probably past their prime or with a clear ceiling like Les Miles and try to sell past success to the fans

Give me Frost
 
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#925
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Dont know if anyone was still awake for it, but Washington lost to ASU. That makes 7 top 25 teams that lost to unranked opponents this week
 
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