Recruiting Forum Football Talk XXXVI

[volfanCLT]

Didn't realize Florida was picked to finish 5th in the East the first year Mac won it.

That's impressive

 

[BigZiti09]

Didn't realize Florida was picked to finish 5th in the East the first year Mac won it.

That's impressive

I think that is another example of media being scared to pick the unknown. Similar to them being down on us this year because we have so many unknowns.

Florida 2015 talent was the best in the east and yet the media was scared to pick them because they didn't know what to expect from McElwain and they were coming off two tough seasons under Champ.

 

[chavisut]

Didn't realize Florida was picked to finish 5th in the East the first year Mac won it.

That's impressive

Yeah. UGA was obvious favorite but we had more 1st place votes than other 5 combined. If anybody was expected to challenge UGA, it was us.

 

[RikidyBones]

👀

 

[MockingVol]

Didn't realize Florida was picked to finish 5th in the East the first year Mac won it.

That's impressive

Yeah, the media greatly undervalued how many wins having the best defense in the country can give you.

 

[BigZiti09]

Yeah. UGA was obvious favorite but we had more 1st place votes than other 5 combined. If anybody was expected to challenge UGA, it was us.

That's an interesting way to phrase those numbers. Another way is to say we were expected to be about like Missouri.

 

[Jimmy Football]

His job is to predict things correctly. We made him look bad at his job. I'm not sure how you think that most humans wouldn't hold a grudge against something that made them look bad at their job to the whole country.

He's a journalist, not a handicapper.

Plus, even if he was only in the business of CFB predictions, the nature of projection is necessarily imprecise. He's going to miss, and even if he is generally good at projections, he's probably going to miss relatively frequently. It would be completely irrational to be upset when something he predicted didn't come true. I think it would be even more irrational to take it personally.

 

[volinbama256]

back and forth, back and forth... Shark boy said he still doesn't know if suspended players will be back, which leans to them not being on the field Saturday.
Butch needs to win -- no excuses right now.... no 3 in 13....

 

[volfanCLT]

I think that is another example of media being scared to pick the unknown. Similar to them being down on us this year because we have so many unknowns.

Florida 2015 talent was the best in the east and yet the media was scared to pick them because they didn't know what to expect from McElwain and they were coming off two tough seasons under Champ.

FPI had them at 3rd in the East, well behind us and Georgia.

 

[volfanCLT]

That's an interesting way to phrase those numbers. Another way is to say we were expected to be about like Missouri.

For context, Missouri that had just come off back to back East titles

 

[chavisut]

That's an interesting way to phrase those numbers. Another way is to say we were expected to be about like Missouri.

Interesting? Pretty straight forward but okay.

 

[volfanCLT]

Yeah, the media greatly undervalued how many wins having the best defense in the country can give you.

True.

Florida actually went from 15th in total defense in '14 to 8th in '15. One of the best.

 

[mrMet]

Best talent in the league behind Bama and only 10-5 with no division title and only 4-4 in conference? Yikes. Can't imagine how many signatures the petition would already have to fahr his ass if that happened in Knoxville.

Whoa now Ron, he aint Butch so it doesn't count to the legion of the miserable

 

[BigZiti09]

For context, Missouri that had just come off back to back East titles

And was ranked ahead of us at 24 preseason.

 

[MockingVol]

That's an interesting way to phrase those numbers. Another way is to say we were expected to be about like Missouri.

The disappointments that year were UGA and Mizzou, not the Vols. It's surprising-- not really--that this isn't the narrative looking back on the season though.

 

[appyvol]

Camion Patrick got charged with murder?

http://tennessee.247sports.com/Bolt...t-brother-charged-in-fatal-stabbing-107398626

 

[BigZiti09]

The disappointments that year were UGA and Mizzou, not the Vols. It's surprising-- not really--that this isn't the narrative looking back on the season though.

The close losses hurt. They've got some people using revisionist history.

 

[mrorange211]

I think we win by 10 or more.

 

[MockingVol]

True.

Florida actually went from 15th in total defense in '14 to 8th in '15. One of the best.

UF's D finished at 8 even with that horribad offense they had. I really think their D was truly #1-2 that year.

 

[BigZiti09]

Camion Patrick got charged with murder?

http://tennessee.247sports.com/Bolt...t-brother-charged-in-fatal-stabbing-107398626

I can't figure out what exactly has happened. The article I read said they had already arrested the two guys responsible for the murder. It said Camion and his bro were arrested in connection to it.

The article I read from the Indy star was not very well written.

 

[BigZiti09]

FPI had them at 3rd in the East, well behind us and Georgia.

I saw FPI the one that has Ohio state at number 1 right now?

I don't believe in these fancy stat models they use nowadays. I like to use my eyes and brain. Just the way I roll.

 

[volfanCLT]

I saw FPI the one that has Ohio state at number 1 right now?

I don't believe in these fancy stat models they use nowadays. I like to use my eyes and brain. Just the way I roll.

Yes, the one that has them tied with Oklahoma at 1.

You are entitled to use your opinion, no issue there.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I can't figure out what exactly has happened. The article I read said they had already arrested the two guys responsible for the murder. It said Camion and his bro were arrested in connection to it.

The article I read from the Indy star was not very well written.

Here is a KNS article.

http://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/...ers-connected-fatal-alcoa-stabbing/664521001/

 

[Go Fight Win]

These are the latest twittter numbers I could find (Note: I'm not sure about Saban but he opened the door to twitter in 2015 and the account was established in Jan 2016. I think all of these are real but I don't know about Saban).

Number of twitter followers

1. Butch Jones 1,320,000
2. Will Muschamp 278,000
3. Bret Bielema 254,000
4. Gus Malzahn 192,000
5. Mark Stoops 153,000
6. Dan Mullen 146,000
7. Kirby Smart 139,000
8. Jim McElwain 119,000
9. Kevin Sumlin 101,000
10. Ed Ogeron 77,300
11. Derek Mason 32,500
12. Gary Odom 18,000
13. Matt Luke 16,000
14. Nick Saban 7,530

The UT marketing team bought a million of those followers online for butch. Many of his followers are fake

 

[nicksjuzunk]

The UT marketing team bought a million of those followers online for butch. Many of his followers are fake

That's interesting