Charlottesville white nationalists riots

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PeterNincompoop said:
I lived in Chattanooga during the end of his stint as mayor. More specifically, I lived in the apartments that stood where BCBS now has their offices on top of Cameron Hill. I remember coming home one day to see a flyer on my door handle stating that the apartments had been purchased and we all had to move. The flyer went on to say that there would be new buildings built at the base of the hill complete with artist renderings, that they would have comparable pricing, and that all Cameron Hill tenants would have the first opportunities at securing residence in them. I never bought that for a second. That was 2004. To my knowledge, there's never been ground broken to fulfill the pledge of new apartments for Cameron Hill residents. Guess who bought Cameron Hill to sell the land to BCBS. Yep, Corker and some investor friends. All while he was the acting mayor of the city. Now, do I think that it benefits the city more to have BCBS offices up there or apartments? BCBS, obviously. But the fact that he had a hand in profiting off of it, and obviously never intending to build new structures for those displaced, all while acting as the city's mayor never set well with me. It's actually the reason why I ditched (most of) my apathy towards politics.
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I sincerely hope you aren't too naive to believe that both parties do the same things.

For the record, the Cameron Hill apartments looked a lot better at the top of the hill than the current urban blight up there.

And if you want to talk about fraud. $8+ M to renovate that little triangle downtown!!??? A lot of homes have lawns bigger than that. I won't blame either party since I actually don't know or care which the resident fool (mayor) belongs to.
 
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So how come all these things weren't offensive for 8 years under Dem Obama? Where were the outcrys and protests then? That overlooked tidbit is a sure tell that the agenda has not a rat's azz to do with statues...
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
New York, both the city and the state, is named after the house of York and particularly for James Stuart, then Duke of York, one of the most successful slavers in colonial American history.
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New York's racist! Tear the place down. There's a York in PA, too - it's gotta go. Places like Yale and Stockton are too much like jail and stockade - where innocent blacks are kept - they gotta go, too. We could really go places with this silly shi!t.
 
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AM64 said:
And if you want to talk about fraud. $8+ M to renovate that little triangle downtown!!??? A lot of homes have lawns bigger than that. I won't blame either party since I actually don't know or care which the resident fool (mayor) belongs to.
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You mean Miller Park? Yeah, they are trying to take it back from the homeless people.
 
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golfballs said:
So Jason Kessler, the organizer of the UniteTheRight rally, was an Obama supporter and organizer of Occupy movements. Also served as a correspondent for CNN.

Seems odd
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Kessler described as one-time wannabe liberal activist

Laura Kleiner, a Democratic activist who lives in Staunton, said she dated Kessler for several months in 2013. She said Kessler was very dedicated to his liberal principles, and that he was a strict vegetarian, abstained from alcohol and drugs, embraced friends of different ethnicities and was an atheist.

“He broke up with me, and a lot of it was because I was not liberal enough,” she said. “I am a very progressive Democrat … but he didn’t like that I ate fish and that I’m a Christian.”
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Franklin Pierce said:
More than 60 per cent of Americans say that statues of Civil War figures associated with the defense of slavery should be left in place, a new poll has revealed.


The poll from NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist offers a measure of support for President Donald Trump's stance on the issue.


Just 27 per cent of people said that the monuments should be removed from parks, roads and schools across the United States.

And, in a striking breakdown, 44 per cent of African Americans agreed the statues should stay, against 40 percent who said they should be removed.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-Confederate-statues-stay.html#ixzz4q8eWyNgc
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I will trust these poll results and agree to keep all of the confederate things if you will trust the poll results showing 63% disapprove of Trump's performance and work for his removal.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I still don't think you understand the meaning. I don't see where she implied anything was a lost cause. She doesn't want to meet the president, because she doesn't want to be in the same room with someone that she finds repugnant. What could come of sitting down with him? To thine own self be true means that she is not willing to compromise her principles and beliefs to talk with Trump.

As for me, to thine own self be true simply means that I don't compromise my ethical standards for anyone.
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I had a book of a response to this but will resort to one simple conclusion.

Her denying a meeting is allowing her daughter to die in vain. If I stand up for a cause and die for it, I would hope my family and friends would take a meeting with the US President no matter who it is, if they had the chance. Her acting all defiant will guarantee her daughter is forgotten in a week.
 
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DynaLo said:
So how come all these things weren't offensive for 8 years under Dem Obama? Where were the outcrys and protests then? That overlooked tidbit is a sure tell that the agenda has not a rat's azz to do with statues...
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Because Democrats eagerly awaited the Obama check that would pay their student debt off, cancel their credit card debt, give them 0% interest loans with sub 600 credit scores, buy their gas, pay off their mortgages! It was going to be a glorious time! Little did they know that the statues of Confederate leaders around the country were secretly and silently conspiring against them and preventing their reparations and glorious social reform that Obama had promised.

They have seen the evil that inanimate artwork does and are in a fervor to remove and destroy as much of it as possible.

If the Taliban and the Nazi SS taught us anything is that destroying art that offends you is the best way to win your battles!
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
The statue of the slave emancipator appears to be burned, reported NBC 5 Chicago.

The burning appears to lend credence to President Donald Trump’s prediction that not only Confederate generals would come under attack, but also other famous American figures. Lincoln, however, did not own slaves and emancipated black people during the Civil War.
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Lincoln was too poor to own slaves, and slaves were hardly appropriate as law clerks when he got a job. He wasn't opposed to slavery, and he only emancipated the slaves in another country. He famously supported secession before he was against it when he became president - typical politician.
 
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luthervol said:
I will trust these poll results and agree to keep all of the confederate things if you will trust the poll results showing 63% disapprove of Trump's performance and work for his removal.
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It's America..you are allowed to think freely without having to seek the approval of others. Were you home schooled in Watership Down?
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
More than 60 per cent of Americans say that statues of Civil War figures associated with the defense of slavery should be left in place, a new poll has revealed.


The poll from NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist offers a measure of support for President Donald Trump's stance on the issue.


Just 27 per cent of people said that the monuments should be removed from parks, roads and schools across the United States.

And, in a striking breakdown, 44 per cent of African Americans agreed the statues should stay, against 40 percent who said they should be removed.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-Confederate-statues-stay.html#ixzz4q8eWyNgc
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
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The reason that a majority of Americans are fine with leaving the statues in place, but also oppose white supremacists and think Trump handled the issue poorly is because they are two separate things.

You can believe the statues should stay up but also think that white supremacists and neo Nazis are bad people.

Keep your eye on the ball. The issue is not the statues.
 
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utvols88 said:
I had a book of a response to this but will resort to one simple conclusion.

Her denying a meeting is allowing her daughter to die in vain. If I stand up for a cause and die for it, I would hope my family and friends would take a meeting with the US President no matter who it is, if they had the chance. Her acting all defiant will guarantee her daughter is forgotten in a week.
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Yeah, no.
 
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AM64 said:
Yes, that one. Take it back, or make it nicer for them?
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The march is on to gentrify downtown. I think they'll make sure the park is not hobo friendly. Next up is College Hill courts. Patten Towers can't have long to live either. Just have to figure out parking.
 
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luthervol said:
I will trust these poll results and agree to keep all of the confederate things if you will trust the poll results showing 63% disapprove of Trump's performance and work for his removal.
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There's close to a 50/50 break on Dim/Rep - with Dims being on the plus side of the identity game. A big part of the Dims will vote unfavorably just because; that significantly skews the polls, and it works that way for any president unless there's a new popular war against a foreign boogeyman or he's some kind of unknown raging success.

If you took a poll around Knoxville on whether people were AL or TN fans, do you really think it would have much to do with Saban's job rating as a coach?

There's no way to eliminate party bias; those numbers are meaningless - particularly because they include the butt hurt people who are no longer being as mollycoddled.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The reason that a majority of Americans are fine with leaving the statues in place, but also oppose white supremacists and think Trump handled the issue poorly is because they are two separate things.

You can believe the statues should stay up but also think that white supremacists and neo Nazis are bad people.

Keep your eye on the ball. The issue is not the statues.
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Then what's the point of tearing down statues? Is it just a release for a bunch of kids? A publicity stunt? I don't believe that anything is going to change as a result of this although it may very temporarily make a few people feel good but probably more from the glee they take in believing that they have hurt the feelings of people that they disagree with that from any real sensation that whatever yoke of oppression they believe they wear has been lifted. I think the cooler heads in the BLM movement managed to articulate the desire to be able to interact with law enforcement without being in fear of their lives and it seems like some progress is being made on that front with community policing, body cameras, partnering patrol officers, etc. Whoever is the brains behind the anti-statue movement needs to articulate what it is that they really want so we can figure out if it's something that can be given in whole or in part.
 
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Yvette Felarca, the Berkeley area school teacher and militant left-wing protester responsible for organizing the riot at the University of California, Berkeley in February 2017, claims that violence against the far-right is “not a crime.”

Felarca, who belongs to “By Any Means Necessary,” a far-left group, is currently facing assault charges after she was caught on video assaulting a white supremacist during a July 2016 rally in Sacramento, Cali.
 
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