To Protect and to Serve II

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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Market forces are no different now than in 1913. If there is a market for something, some enterprising person will build it and the people will pay to use it because it makes their lives better. We don't need to be stolen from by a group of criminals calling themselves government to do it. Besides, it's the gas tax that pays for the roads, not the income tax.
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How about prisons and the criminal justice system? Education? National, state, and local parks and recreation? Law enforcement, police, highway patrol? etc...., etc..., etc....
 
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InVOLuntary said:
You can't go by those statistics. Many of the charges are changed or dropped. One of the guys that robbed me had a previous charge on his record f vandalism. Thought that as odd so I looked into it further. He was actually breaking into an atm machine. Ask any cop. Most of the crimes that are committed having underlying drug addiction issues
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This is a type of claim you can't make without something to back it up. Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass.
 
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MercyPercy said:
This is a type of claim you can't make without something to back it up. Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass.
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Experience man, experience.

When I walk outside and water is pouring from the clouds, I don't need a weather man to tell me it's raining.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
So you're just against income tax?

So you're saying we don't need a military? Or the military should be privatized?
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I am against any type of initiatory force or violence. I am an anarchist/voluntaryist. I understand we cannot get to a stateless society right now, if ever. But we can try our best to err on the side of personal liberty.

The military? I don't have a problem with a military used for defensive purposes.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I am against any type of initiatory force or violence. I am an anarchist/voluntaryist. I understand we cannot get to a stateless society right now, if ever. But we can try our best to err on the side of personal liberty.

The military? I don't have a problem with a military used for defenseive purposes.
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Who's going to pay for for the military?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Who's going to pay for for the military?
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Instead of asking who will pay for this, or who will pay for that, ask yourself if we really need it. You realize the founders were staunchly opposed to a standing army, right?
I am not against the military, provided it is voluntarily joined and used for defensive purposes.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Instead of asking who will pay for this, or who will pay for that, as yourself if we really need it. You realize the founders were staunchly opposed to a standing army, right?
I am not against the military, provided it is voluntarily joined and used for defensive purposes.
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So you think that if we dissolved our military today everybody just play nice and leave us alone?
 
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#3,634
DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I am against any type of initiatory force or violence. I am an anarchist/voluntaryist. I understand we cannot get to a stateless society right now, if ever. But we can try our best to err on the side of personal liberty.

The military? I don't have a problem with a military used for defensive purposes.
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This explains everything with your drug cartel stuff.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
So you think that if we dissolved our military today everybody just play nice and leave us alone?
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Considering the rate of firearm ownership in America, I think we'd be ok.

Observe some things, Russia's entire military budget is 60 something billion, America's 600+ billion and growing. There is something seriously wrong there.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Considering the rate of firearm ownership in America, I think we'd be ok.

Observe some things, Russia's entire military budget is 60 something billion, America's 600+ billion and growing. There is something seriously wrong there.
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Individual firearms are useless in today's military. We have weapons that kill thousands in the blink of an eye. I can't argue that e spend too much but our military is the best in the world.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Individual firearms are useless in today's military. We have weapons that kill thousands in the blink of an eye. I can't argue that e spend too much but our military is the best in the world.
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As a guerilla state America would make Iraq and Afghanistan look like a spit ball fight.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Yes it was serious. You do away with the police and military the last thing you'll be doing is living in peace.
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That's the narrative, isn't it. Recall I did post that I'm not opposed to a defensive military. I'm ok with the current model under our current paradigm. However I would prefer to move to a more private model, eventually.
 
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