To Protect and to Serve II

[tumscalcium]

Damn dude, go back and read your own post. You said the cartels will move on to some other way to make money and terrorize people. It's the boogeyman mentality. That is a politicians wet dream.

Of course they will. It's not a boogeyman scare tactic to keep up the war on drugs fight. That's on you. I'm stating exactly what they'll do. Move on to something else. What's so hard to understand about that? The only person here creating some boogeyman is you, son.

Lulz

 

[tumscalcium]

I responded to Ras and you went full retard.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Of course they will. It's not a boogeyman scare tactic to keep up the war on drugs fight. That's on you. I'm stating exactly what they'll do. Move on to something else. What's so hard to understand about that? The only person here creating some boogeyman is you, son.

Lulz

Just because they may move onto something else is no reason to keep up the failed war on drugs simply because it doesn't effect you. It actually does affect you because your tax money pays for all of it.

Let's say the cartel moves on to human trafficking (which they already do) guess what, that's an actual crime with a victim. If the cops aren't hindered with busting people for drugs, they can solve these problems.

 

[apevol]

tums

 

[apevol]

when bad people are getting fantastically rich off of something

 

[apevol]

if you take away their ability to peddle that something

 

[apevol]

their capacity to terrorize is severely diminished

 

[InVOLuntary]

If drugs became legal, where would these drug users get their drugs?

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

If drugs became legal, where would these drug users get their drugs?

I'd imagine it would work much like the states where marijuana has been legalized. There would be licensed dispensaries.

 

[tumscalcium]

Just because they may move onto something else is no reason to keep up the failed war on drugs simply because it doesn't effect you. It actually does affect you because your tax money pays for all of it.

Let's say the cartel moves on to human trafficking (which they already do) guess what, that's an actual crime with a victim. If the cops aren't hindered with busting people for drugs, they can solve these problems.

You'll need to point out where I said they need to continue the war on drugs before we continue.

You need to understand, which you're clearly not, that simply stopping the war on drugs won't make anything kumbayatic. You all act like allowing all drugs will end everything bad. It's hilarious and childishly simple minded.

 

[InVOLuntary]

I'd imagine it would work much like the states where marijuana has been legalized. There would be licensed dispensaries.

Where would the dispensaries get their supply?

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

You'll really have to elaborate with specifics. You want us to get involved with Mexico and other foreign governments? You'll be the first one crying about it.

Say what? What are you talking about?

 

[tumscalcium]

I really don't care that much about them making money in other ways. As far as terrorizing people, that is where LEO refocus their efforts.

Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow do you suggest that's done?

 

[tumscalcium]

their capacity to terrorize is severely diminished

Negative. They'll find something else. As previously stated, they already have. The cartels won't go away and start holding hands while prancing around flowers if drugs are legalized.

 

[tumscalcium]

Say what? What are you talking about?

How do we combat the cartels?

 

[luthervol]

The true fantasyland is believing the war on drugs can be won. You cannot save people from themselves.

Btw your argument is exactly the reason we've ended up with an unlimited state.

No one believes the war on drugs can be won. What people believe is that absent the war on drugs, there would be far more damaging and unwinnable wars we would be forced to fight.

Legalizing drugs will do nothing to deter the illegal manufacturing of designer drugs. Is it your position that everyone should have the freedom to create and distribute any type of drug imaginable?

Suppose the drug is created that when once taken, it triggers a reaction in the body that requires the drug to be continually taken in order to avoid certain death.

Should this drug be allowed to legally be created in a double wide trailer and then be distributed to kids on the playground? Just trying to get an idea of when you feel the "state" should step in.

 

[FLVOL_79]

No one believes the war on drugs can be won. What people believe is that absent the war on drugs, there would be far more damaging and unwinnable wars we would be forced to fight.

Legalizing drugs will do nothing to deter the illegal manufacturing of designer drugs. Is it your position that everyone should have the freedom to create and distribute any type of drug imaginable?

Suppose the drug is created that when once taken, it triggers a reaction in the body that requires the drug to be continually taken in order to avoid certain death.

Should this drug be allowed to legally be created in a double wide trailer and then be distributed to kids on the playground? Just trying to get an idea of when you feel the "state" should step in.

Gave you a like

:yuck:

But I agree.

Who gets to decide which drugs are good and which are bad and why.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

How do we combat the cartels?

Well first off, you remove the profit incentive from drugs by legalization. Next, you don't have out govt arm and support the cartels.

 

[tumscalcium]

Well first off, you remove the profit incentive from drugs by legalization. Next, you don't have out govt arm and support the cartels.

Again, they'll make their money. They're pretty savvy. What that last sentence?

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

You'll need to point out where I said they need to continue the war on drugs before we continue.

You need to understand, which you're clearly not, that simply stopping the war on drugs won't make anything kumbayatic. You all act like allowing all drugs will end everything bad. It's hilarious and childishly simple minded.

I took your post to mean that the cartels would move on to something else, so what's the point? Perhaps I misunderstood?

I never claimed anything would be kumbayatic. I'm the guy that sides with dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery, to quote T. Jefferson. I am of the opinion that the only true crime is when persons or property is harmed. Anything more is a cash grab by the state.

Stopping the war on drugs won't stop crime, that's always going to happen. The point is it would free up resources to be able to achieve the original supposed goal of the police, protect and serve persons and property.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Where would the dispensaries get their supply?

Same way the dispensaries get their marijuana, I would guess.

 

[davethevol]

Again, they'll make their money. They're pretty savvy. What that last sentence?

Yep. They will ramp up kidnapping for ransom and extortion, car thefts, etc....
Bad people are going to find ways to do bad things.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

No one believes the war on drugs can be won. What people believe is that absent the war on drugs, there would be far more damaging and unwinnable wars we would be forced to fight.

Legalizing drugs will do nothing to deter the illegal manufacturing of designer drugs. Is it your position that everyone should have the freedom to create and distribute any type of drug imaginable?

Suppose the drug is created that when once taken, it triggers a reaction in the body that requires the drug to be continually taken in order to avoid certain death.

Should this drug be allowed to legally be created in a double wide trailer and then be distributed to kids on the playground? Just trying to get an idea of when you feel the "state" should step in.

Question. If all drugs are legalized, why would someone buy something from some guy in a double wide trailer that is untested and potentially dangerous, when they can go to a dispensary and get something that is much safer? I don't think ole boy in the trailer will find much of a market. Of course he will sell a few, so what.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Again, they'll make their money. They're pretty savvy. What that last sentence?

ATF gunwalking scandal

 

[midnight orange]

Again, they'll make their money. They're pretty savvy. What that last sentence?

Some will adapt, some will go out of business due to the changing market.