To Protect and to Serve II

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InVOLuntary said:
Ever watch Live PD? I haven't seen one arrest for less than an ounce of weed (unless they can't pass a sobriety test). They do get a citation in many cases. I don't think the cops care that much about a little weed any more. They'll bust you hard though for pills, meth, or heroin.
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Correct.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
Ever watch Live PD? I haven't seen one arrest for less than an ounce of weed (unless they can't pass a sobriety test). They do get a citation in many cases. I don't think the cops care that much about a little weed any more. They'll bust you hard though for pills, meth, or heroin.
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There's a reason interdiction teams sit facing the southbound side of the interstate and not the northbound side.

They don't care about stopping the drugs. They just want the money to buy more toys. A car full of drugs is worthless, a car full of cash buys more tacticool gear and MRAPs.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Heroin increase is from crackdowns on pill mills. I don't think people who smoke weed are substituting heroin for it.
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This, changes to the formula(s), and removal from the market are the main drivers as far as I can tell. I have a long-time friend that I catch up with every now and then who has been a pillhead the entire time I knew him (although I didn't know this the entire time). When the Oxycontin formula was first changed so that they would gel when you crush them up, the black market filled the gap with snortable heroine in rock form. Now that Opana ER is off the market, I guess he and his pillhead friends will be going back to it.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Heroin increase is from crackdowns on pill mills. I don't think people who smoke weed are substituting heroin for it.
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To some degree they are, though I don't know how strong the impact is. Weed tests for 30 days+. When I worked landscape, I worked with parolees. They didn't smoke weed because it'd ruin their piss tests, but they could get away with heroin unless they happened to smoke it the day before they got the call to produce urine.

It's also easier for a police officer to detect weed on your person, which means some margin of the population chooses heroin.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
There's a reason interdiction teams sit facing the southbound side of the interstate and not the northbound side.

They don't care about stopping the drugs. They just want the money to buy more toys. A car full of drugs is worthless, a car full of cash buys more tacticool gear and MRAPs.
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I've got cop buddies and they do get extremely pumped about cash no doubt. They get equally excited if they get a bunch of pills and stuff too. though.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The police say the home owner had a gun when he answered the door.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghn0AGj6Cpg[/youtube]
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Guy I know is directly connected to that guy. He messaged me, furious and said the same thing the family friend did. Which was he was a great guy. Wrong house stories are always sad. I had the wrong house happen to me but the world didn't have folks calling cops and ambushing them because of their profession either so it was just a broken door and frame, which they replaced.
 
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#3,558
Texas Ranger brake checks a civilian and in return, the civilian passes him and flips off the Ranger...

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26swgi-1Fds[/youtube]
 
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#3,560
DancingOutlaw said:
There's a reason interdiction teams sit facing the southbound side of the interstate and not the northbound side.

They don't care about stopping the drugs. They just want the money to buy more toys. A car full of drugs is worthless, a car full of cash buys more tacticool gear and MRAPs.
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And hurts the murderous cartels more than a few hundred pounds of weed or kilos of coke. To be fair they work both sides
 
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tim said:
And hurts the murderous cartels more than a few hundred pounds of weed or kilos of coke. To be fair they work both sides
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If we legalized, there would be fewer, if any, murderous cartels.Plus, you have less of a need for LEO involved in contraband control and they can use those resources towards other things.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
If we legalized, there would be fewer, if any, murderous cartels.Plus, you have less of a need for LEO involved in contraband control and they can use those resources towards other things.
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They'll find other ways of making money and terrorizing people. Thinking the cartels will just go straight or beca non-factor is ridiculously naive. C'mon Ras, you know better than that.
 
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tumscalcium said:
They'll find other ways of making money and terrorizing people. Thinking the cartels will just go straight or beca non-factor is ridiculously naive. C'mon Ras, you know better than that.
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Well, if decriminalized, drugs would be a non-factor as far as possession crimes goes. That would free up cops to concentrate on the truly violent elements of society. Lets face it, people are always going to do bad stuff, you simply cannot stop that. However we can stop ruining people's lives for substances they choose to put in their own bodies. Personal responsibility should rule the day.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Well, if decriminalized drugs would be a non-factor as far as possession crimes goes. That would free up cops to concentrate on the truly violent elements of society. Lets face it, people are always going to do bad stuff, you simply cannot stop that. However we can stop ruining people's lives for substances they choose to put in their own bodies. Personal responsibility should rule the day.
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I'm all about personal responsibility. We should let overdose people die. That'll free up money and people to care for people who care about themselves. You know, personal responsibility.

Your post had nothing to do with the Cartels though.
 
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tumscalcium said:
I'm all about personal responsibility. We should let overdose people die. That'll free up money and people to care for people who care about themselves. You know, personal responsibility.

Your post had nothing to do with the Cartels though.
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If cops aren't running around trying to stop Johnny dope dealer, they can then concentrate on the violent elements of society i.e. cartels.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
The true fantasyland is believing the war on drugs can be won. You cannot save people from themselves.

Btw your argument is exactly the reason we've ended up with an unlimited state.
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Says the guy thinking we'll all be holding hands and singing. In his fantasyland. What's my argument?
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
That the cartel will simply move on to something else. In other words, there's always a boogeyman around the corner waiting to get you. That logic has been used for years to justify an unlimited state and it also leads to a loss of personal freedom.
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They'll move on to something else, absolutely. How have I said they're coming to get me? The only person here with this boogeyman mentality is, well, you. I don't have anything to do with drugs. I have nothing to worry about.
 
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tumscalcium said:
They'll move on to something else, absolutely. How have I said they're coming to get me? The only person here with this boogeyman mentality is, well, you. I don't have anything to do with drugs. I have nothing to worry about.
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Damn dude, go back and read your own post. You said the cartels will move on to some other way to make money and terrorize people. It's the boogeyman mentality. That is a politicians wet dream.
 
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