Anti-Trump Hysteria and Silliness

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#3,903
LouderVol said:
could be any number of reasons to not pay contractors, and I would be very interested to know if these lawsuit numbers were actually under contract amounts or if they were changes/fixes that came up after bid. had plenty of contractors come seeking payment from owners when they have built something wrong, had to rip it up and build it a second time. they are only due money for doing it right, under most contracts.
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The contractors that I am talking about refuse to work with him because he likes to rework his deals after all of the work is done and done correctly.
 
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#3,904
I seriously doubt that Trump decides who is gonna do his landscaping and other contract decisions. He pays others to make those decisions.

Funny how some of you point the finger at Trump as being the one solely responsible but you never blamed Obama for any of his actions. He never took responsibility for anything unless it was positive.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
The contractors that I am talking about refuse to work with him because he likes to rework his deals after all of the work is done and done correctly.
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i can see this being the case, but as others have pointed out I dont see how it is worth the legal fees to do this as a business practice.
 
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AirVol said:
I seriously doubt that Trump decides who is gonna do his landscaping and other contract decisions. He pays others to make those decisions.

Funny how some of you point the finger at Trump as being the one solely responsible but you never blamed Obama for any of his actions. He never took responsibility for anything unless it was positive.
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Preach it brother AV...
 
#3,907
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LouderVol said:
i can see this being the case, but as others have pointed out I dont see how it is worth the legal fees to do this as a business practice.
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Because many companies do not have the financial wherewithall to go toe to toe with the Trump organization. Throw some money in fees and receive a bigger break on the total price. Many businessmen know how to properly use attorneys and consider just another cost of doing business. Trump ain't dumb and knows how to game the system.
 
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AirVol said:
I seriously doubt that Trump decides who is gonna do his landscaping and other contract decisions. He pays others to make those decisions.

Funny how some of you point the finger at Trump as being the one solely responsible but you never blamed Obama for any of his actions. He never took responsibility for anything unless it was positive.
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I believe he would tell you that he sets the culture at his companies and only hires people that will implement that culture.

BTW, name one negative thing that Trump has taken the blame for... This ain't a Trump v. Obama thing. It's a human nature thing. Very few people have the ability to admit mistakes. That is the number one way I have to destroy someone's credibility at trial. People who own their mistakes are very difficult to cross examine. People that that refuse look foolish.
 
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LouderVol said:
i can see this being the case, but as others have pointed out I dont see how it is worth the legal fees to do this as a business practice.
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The answer to that is simple.

He stiffs the lawyers, too.

As our own Hannah Levintova reported in March, the Atlantic City law firm of Levine Staller saved one of Trump’s companies tens of millions of dollars in taxes—and then sued the company, Trump Entertainment, after the business tried to pay Levine Staller $1.25 million less than the firm was owed.
In 2012, Levine Staller won a settlement that returned $35 million in overpaid taxes and cut $15 million from the company’s future liabilities, leading to a total savings of $50 million for the corporation. Trump agreed to pay $7.25 million to the law firm in legal fees, but then only paid Levine Staller $6 million before trying to claim the rest as unsecured debt in ongoing bankruptcy proceedings. In response, Levine Staller sued its former client, Trump Entertainment, and in 2014, a judge rejected Trump Entertainment’s request to be absolved of this debt and told the company to pay up.
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It wasn’t an isolated case. Trump underpaid at least four law firms or lawyers who worked for him, according to various news outlets that looked into Trump’s history of cheating his contractors. One of them, Morrison Cohen LLP of New York City, had represented Trump in a lawsuit against a construction contractor that Trump claimed had overcharged him for work on a golf course. According to USA Today, Trump sued Morrison Cohen for using the case to help promote its work, and the firm countersued for almost $500,000 in unpaid bills. The case was settled in 2009.
It wasn’t just big amounts Trump tried to get out of paying, either. Bill Scherer, a lawyer in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, had to sue Trump in 1994 to collect $5,000 in unpaid legal bills from a case Scherer won for the billionaire. The lawyer told Reuters last year that he had offered Trump a low rate to “curry favor” with the mogul, but still had to sue. “He’s a deadbeat,” Scherer told South Florida’s Sun-Sentinel newspaper. Trump told Reuters that he couldn’t remember Scherer or the case at all.
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#3,911
Trump has spent six months (1/8 of a term) now flailing around on twitter, vacationing at his resorts and whining about the press. When is he going to start bring all those jobs back to America that he promised? When is he going to actually start working for the people that elected him? When is he going to do anything productive? He sure talked the talk but.........
 
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MT LeConte said:
Trump has spent six months (1/8 of a term) now flailing around on twitter, vacationing at his resorts and whining about the press. When is he going to start bring all those jobs back to America that he promised? When is he going to actually start working for the people that elected him? When is he going to do anything productive? He sure talked the talk but.........
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That stuff is hard.

This is fun because when he goes to those carefully hand selected audiences he loves the adoration he gets for repeating what he heard on Infowars or read on Breitbart..
 
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What worries me is if someone starts whispering in his ear that the key to the Second Coming is him unleashing Armageddon. He might do it, especially out of spite.
 
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MT LeConte said:
When is he going to start bring all those jobs back to America that he promised?
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Any day now the mines will open up and hire 1 million new workers.

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BigOrangeTrain said:
Absolutely nothing.
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I think it says memeing and twittering actually work. I think it says more people are sold by irritating the other side than by actual policy and professional behavior.

I had high hopes for Trump because he wasn't beholden the special interests and he was an outsider. I only have seen this in the way he treats those that disagree with him and WWF clips. I'm still waiting on the actual policy outcomes.
 
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armchair said:
to respect people who make laughable statements like yours. I guess this lame false equivalency that Trump supporters are always trotting out is the only way they can justify their dumb decision to vote for this vile man. The idea that Clinton was not a better choice than Trump is beyond absurd. Other than massive differences in character, maturity, intelligence, government/policy experience, respect for democratic institutions and the office of the presidency, yea, I guess there are no real differences between the two. Please.
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This my be the dumbest thing you've ever written. I despise trump and haven't voted for a president since Bush I. But suggest that HRC was anything other than a vile pile of garbage is absolutely out of touch with reality. Stop being part of the problem before you cause trump to get reelected.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
This is per Bloomberg.com: Donald Trump's new Washington hotel located just blocks from the White House, owes electricians, wood workers and a plumbing and heating business more than $5 million for unpaid labor, according to liens filed against the property with the District of Columbia... Trump has acknowledged not always paying all his bills, saying it's often a negotiating tactic when work is subpar. His companies have been sued numerous times over unpaid work. Among them were landscapers at Riverside South Park in Manhattan, who sued in 2001 seeking $111,000. Contractors at Trump Park Ave sued in 2003 seeking $206,000. And in 2010 a painter in Chicago sued a Trump entity claiming to be owed over $4 million.

Trump considers not paying for work as just part of doing business... This should not be news to anyone. He has an extensive history of not paying his bills.
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All you just did was advertise that you don't understand construction business. I personally know four churches in the same boat because there are major disagreements about the quality of work done. The crews say they are done. The churches say they aren't, and they won't pay until the work is done correctly. The liens exist until mediation/court decides one way or another.

You are either very ignorant, or purposefully misrepresenting things as though Trump just refuses to pay for no reason whatsoever, except greed and rich-boogeyman-devil-horns-syndrome.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
All you just did was advertise that you don't understand construction business. I personally know four churches in the same boat because there are major disagreements about the quality of work done. The crews say they are done. The churches say they aren't, and they won't pay until the work is done correctly. The liens exist until mediation/court decides one way or another.

You are either very ignorant, or purposefully misrepresenting things as though Trump just refuses to pay for no reason whatsoever, except greed and rich-boogeyman-devil-horns-syndrome.
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I have been responsible for, along with one of our facilities managers, signing off on the final punch of 4 new restaurant builds. 3 of them went to court over disagreements between my company and the GC over scope of work contracted out and actual work performed. The same GC built all four restaurants. The court helped us mediate it out. Very common in commercial building.
 
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