Are Dobbs' Mechanical Issues Fixable? - Article

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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Obviously I understood that. I'm not here saying you have to think every kid who plays for the Vols is great. But Josh Dobbs isn't just any other kid. He aint some irrelevant guy people will forget in a few years like Worley.

Josh Dobbs is a LEGENDARY player for the Vols.

To diminish the ability of a player of his stature is disrespectful. Players like Justin Worley dont have that clout or deserve that level of respect.
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I don't see what is so legendary about him. I've seen many QBs with better skill sets flame out. Heath Schuler is a great example of that.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Obviously I understood that. I'm not here saying you have to think every kid who plays for the Vols is great. But Josh Dobbs isn't just any other kid. He aint some irrelevant guy people will forget in a few years like Worley.

Josh Dobbs is a LEGENDARY player for the Vols.

To diminish the ability of a player of his stature is disrespectful. Players like Justin Worley dont have that clout or deserve that level of respect.
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Honest question.......what makes Josh Dobbs a legendary player?
 
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Burger said:
Except he never won anything of substance.
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That happens with an overly conservative coach, pedestrian wrs, and a horrible defense. He did win several big games. How many times have we beaten UF in the last ten years without Dobbs at qb again? When was the last time we beat UGA and UF in the same year?
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Obviously I understood that. I'm not here saying you have to think every kid who plays for the Vols is great. But Josh Dobbs isn't just any other kid. He aint some irrelevant guy people will forget in a few years like Worley.

Josh Dobbs is a LEGENDARY player for the Vols.

To diminish the ability of a player of his stature is disrespectful. Players like Justin Worley dont have that clout or deserve that level of respect.
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Josh was ultimately an outstanding player for the Vols after following up 3 underwhelming, inconsistent, sometimes brilliant years with a very good senior season. But Legendary is far overstating it. There have been many good players, some great players, and very few legendary players. Imho, there are only 4 maybe 5 legendary players in UT's modern history....Reggie White, Doug Atkins, Peyton Manning, probably Johnny Majors and maybe Al Wilson.

Josh was on balance very good, perhaps even borderline great when comparing his accomplishments to other Vol greats. But he simply does not fall in the legendary category.

Edit: I know, I know, I'm a disrespecting racist hater.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
A RBs main job is running not pass catching so saying Adrian couldn't do that isn't disrespect. Saying a QB can't pass accurately is disrespect. That is how I see all these threads about Josh and his passing ability. Y'all are always saying he's not good enough to be a NFL QB.

That is disrespect especially when it comes from the players own fanbase.

Its sad when guys like Todd McShay have more respect for Josh's potential as a NFL QB than his own fanbase. And y'all wonder why I think something else is involved?
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Has nothing to do with my opinion of Josh Dobbs at all. Has absolutely everything to do with your opinion of him. You have made that blatantly obvious in other forums. Repeatedly, to the point of insulting every African-American that isn't the exact skin color and hair texture you deem adequate.

/Rant on closet racists
 
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k-town_king said:
Stats. Bringing the program back from losing and .500 seasons. Big game performances. UT records. Name it.
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While still sitting behind a few players in passing stats. He did a lot of good things while he was here and one of my favorite players in recent history, but IMO not considered "legendary". Let me know when they put his number on the Ring of Honor.... That's where legends go.
 
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k-town_king said:
That happens with an overly conservative coach, pedestrian wrs, and a horrible defense. He did win several big games. How many times have we beaten UF in the last ten years without Dobbs at qb again? When was the last time we beat UGA and UF in the same year?
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That overly aggressive coach is one of the reasons Dobbs had the success he had. Name another system Josh Dobbs has the numbers he had in rushing........ I'll wait.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Obviously I understood that. I'm not here saying you have to think every kid who plays for the Vols is great. But Josh Dobbs isn't just any other kid. He aint some irrelevant guy people will forget in a few years like Worley.

Josh Dobbs is a LEGENDARY player for the Vols.

To diminish the ability of a player of his stature is disrespectful. Players like Justin Worley dont have that clout or deserve that level of respect.
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This coming from someone who's been a fan less than 2.5 years. You wouldn't know legendary if it bit you in the ass.
 
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k-town_king said:
That happens with an overly conservative coach, pedestrian wrs, and a horrible defense. He did win several big games. How many times have we beaten UF in the last ten years without Dobbs at qb again? When was the last time we beat UGA and UF in the same year?
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So we're finally starting to beat teams we're suppose to beat? Dobbs has no wins vs. the SEC West.
 
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GAVol said:
Add Von Pearson to Worley's list. His WRs weren't all that bad.
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Pig Howard, Marquez North, Jonathan Johnson, freshman Josh Smith who dropped everything thrown to him, Jason Croom, Devrin Young, AJ Branisel, freshman Ethan Wolf. Thats not a very good list. He got Pearson, who was a decent WR, for half a season....Dobbs got him for a year and a half. Dobbs also got non-freshman Malone and Jauan Jennings in his two full years as a starter.

Additionally, Worley never got to play with Kamara (74 catches, about 700 yds, 7 games tds).

Bottom line, Dobbs played with much more talent than Worley ever did and it's not really close imo.
 
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k-town_king said:
That happens with an overly conservative coach, pedestrian wrs, and a horrible defense. He did win several big games. How many times have we beaten UF in the last ten years without Dobbs at qb again? When was the last time we beat UGA and UF in the same year?
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So you agree with me then, 1 big game. You mention the same FL game twice and GA was a should win..... So 1 game.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Honest question.......what makes Josh Dobbs a legendary player?
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He brought a dying program back to relevance through his will and talent.

What Dobbs did for the Tennessee offense the last 2 years given how bad Butch Jones coached and how bad the offensive line is was nothing short of miraculous.

Remember we were a powerhouse offense the last 2 years. We broke school records in both years. Typically it was the defense or bad coaching that cost us games.

Josh Dobbs took this program to places it hasn't been in over a decade. That is LEGENDARY.
 
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Burger said:
I don't see what is so legendary about him. I've seen many QBs with better skill sets flame out. Heath Schuler is a great example of that.
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You just don't have an eye for talent.

Josh Dobbs is the best QB prospect to enter the NFL in my memory (which goes back to about 2003 when I began to follow the NFL draft).
 
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Burger said:
Except he never won anything of substance.
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He unfortunately had an anvil around his neck dragging him down by the name of Butch Jones.

Give us a coach who isn't afraid like Dabo Sweeney and we win at least one SEC Championship in the last 2 years.

Just watch how great Josh is in Pittsburgh with a competent coaching staff and a talented supporting cast. He'll be UNSTOPPABLE.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
You just don't have an eye for talent.

Josh Dobbs is the best QB prospect to enter the NFL in my memory (which goes back to about 2003 when I began to follow the NFL draft).
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He wasn't even the best QB prospect in this class. All I gotta say is wow. You can't even evaluate an offensive lineman.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
He unfortunately had an anvil around his neck dragging him down by the name of Butch Jones.

Give us a coach who isn't afraid like Dabo Sweeney and we win at least one SEC Championship in the last 2 years.

Just watch how great Josh is in Pittsburgh with a competent coaching staff and a talented supporting cast. He'll be UNSTOPPABLE.
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I can't disagree about the Butch Jones thing. Even if we had Harbaugh the last two years, we're not beating Alabama.
I also think Mike Tomlin is insanely overrated. Especially since that great defense got old.
 
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KBVol said:
Josh was ultimately an outstanding player for the Vols after following up 3 underwhelming, inconsistent, sometimes brilliant years with a very good senior season. But Legendary is far overstating it. There have been many good players, some great players, and very few legendary players. Imho, there are only 4 maybe 5 legendary players in UT's modern history....Reggie White, Doug Atkins, Peyton Manning, probably Johnny Majors and maybe Al Wilson.

Josh was on balance very good, perhaps even borderline great when comparing his accomplishments to other Vol greats. But he simply does not fall in the legendary category.

Edit: I know, I know, I'm a disrespecting racist hater.
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(1) Josh Dobbs led a Tennessee offense that set SCHOOL RECORDS for points scored and TDs scored for a season.

(2) Josh Dobbs set the SCHOOL RECORD for total TDs in one season by a single player at 40 TDs scored last year. He was also 9 yards short of passing Peyton Manning for the SCHOOL RECORD for total yards in a season.

(3) Josh Dobbs averaged MORE yards per game and TDs per game in his 37 career games at Tennessee than Peyton Manning did in his 45 career games at Tennessee. He finished 2nd all-time in TDs scored in SCHOOL HISTORY and 3rd all-time in total yards. If he played as many games as Manning did, he would have been #1 all-time in both categories.

(4) Josh Dobbs led Tennessee to 3 straight bowl wins. First time Tennessee did that in nearly 20 years.

(5) And don't forget all the memorable incredible Houdini like plays he made behind what was a porous offensive line.

One could argue that based purely on stats, Josh Dobbs is the single best offensive player in the history of Tennessee football. He led the most prolific offense in SCHOOL HISTORY and on a per game basis was more productive than Peyton Manning.

If these accomplishments aren't LEGENDARY, then I don't know what is.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
And Marquez North was actually good back then.

This idea that Worley didn't have WRs is a lie.

His receivers were BETTER than what Dobbs had last year.
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North was never worth a damn outside of 2-3 great catches his freshman year.

Worley didn't have anything like Malone as a junior and JJ as a sophomore.....both of which will play in the NFL for awhile..... Malone is already there. He had 5'7" Pig Howard with 4.75 speed, Jonathan Johnson, Jason Croom, Devrin Young and a good Von Pearson for all of 7 games. For crying out loud dude, just when I think you can't possibly get anymore ridiculous......
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
(1) Josh Dobbs led a Tennessee offense that set SCHOOL RECORDS for points scored and TDs scored for a season.

(2) Josh Dobbs set the SCHOOL RECORD for total TDs in one season by a single player at 40 TDs scored last year. He was also 9 yards short of passing Peyton Manning for the SCHOOL RECORD for total yards in a season.

(3) Josh Dobbs averaged MORE yards per game and TDs per game in his 37 career games at Tennessee than Peyton Manning did in his 45 career games at Tennessee. He finished 2nd all-time in TDs scored in SCHOOL HISTORY and 3rd all-time in total yards. If he played as many games as Manning did, he would have been #1 all-time in both categories.

(4) Josh Dobbs led Tennessee to 3 straight bowl wins. First time Tennessee did that in nearly 20 years.

(5) And don't forget all the memorable incredible Houdini like plays he made behind what was a porous offensive line.

One could argue that based purely on stats, Josh Dobbs is the single best offensive player in the history of Tennessee football. He led the most prolific offense in SCHOOL HISTORY and on a per game basis was more productive than Peyton Manning.

If these accomplishments aren't LEGENDARY, then I don't know what is.
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Then you don't know what is....
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
He brought a dying program back to relevance through his will and talent.

What Dobbs did for the Tennessee offense the last 2 years given how bad Butch Jones coached and how bad the offensive line is was nothing short of miraculous.

Remember we were a powerhouse offense the last 2 years. We broke school records in both years. Typically it was the defense or bad coaching that cost us games.

Josh Dobbs took this program to places it hasn't been in over a decade. That is LEGENDARY.
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Didn't you say in a post very recently that football is a team game and that Dobbs didn't win the Heisman because all his teammates and coaches let him down? Now you're saying he single-handedly, without any help from anybody, brought back to relevance a dying program through his sheer will and talent?? Lol. You're spewing so much bs you can't keep it straight.
 
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