Josh Dobbs visiting the Steelers today

#52
#52
NeverWe'llSever said:
Can Vol fans just not even mention this crap anymore? Bad enough I gotta hear it from the Bama and UGA fans. My own fan base shouldn't make me feel sick. :puke5:
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Don't be mad at the fanbase, it was our own coach that put that garbage out there.... Be mad at him.
 
#54
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114VOL said:
I didn't say he wasn't good. I'm saying he is nowhere near good enough as a passer to play right now in the NFL. He may develop.

My views are much closer to scouts than yours. I am sure of it
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Appeals to authority is a logical fallacy. Even if your views are closer to those of the scouts, it doesn't make it right. Last year my views on Dak Prescott were close to the scouts as well as neither of us thought he could throw the ball accurately enough to be a day 1 starter in the NFL QB. Guess what we were proven wrong.

Josh Dobbs will prove you and the scouts wrong as well. He's a day 1 starter. And if he lands on a good team like the Steelers, he could win a lot of games.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Josh Dobbs is a good enough passer to start Day 1 in the NFL and lead a talented team like the Steelers to the Super Bowl.

The idea Dobbs can't pass the ball accurately from the pocket is a MYTH. He proved during the season he was a great passer when he led the SEC in QB rating and passing TDs. He proved it during the senior bowl when he earned the starting job over Davis Webb and was praised by Hue Jackson. He proved it during the combine when he threw the ball as good as any QB there. And he proved it during his pro day when he conducted a flawless workout.

Josh Dobbs is perfectly fine as a passer.
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:eek:lol:
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Appeals to authority is a logical fallacy. Even if your views are closer to those of the scouts, it doesn't make it right. Last year my views on Dak Prescott were close to the scouts as well as neither of us thought he could throw the ball accurately enough to be a day 1 starter in the NFL QB. Guess what we were proven wrong.

Josh Dobbs will prove you and the scouts wrong as well. He's a day 1 starter. And if he lands on a good team like the Steelers, he could win a lot of games.
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Are we talking about the same Dobbs who lost to South Carolina because his pocket skills are mediocre at best?
 
#58
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Appeals to authority is a logical fallacy. Even if your views are closer to those of the scouts, it doesn't make it right. Last year my views on Dak Prescott were close to the scouts as well as neither of is thought he could throw the ball accurately enough to be a day 1 starter in the NFL QB. Guess what we were proven wrong.

Josh Dobbs will prove you and the scouts wrong as well. He's a day 1 starter. And if he lands on a good team like the Steelers, he could win a lot of games.
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First of all, Prescott only became the starter because Romo got hurt. He didn't win the job as you are insinuating. Neither will Dobbs...on any NFL team. He'll only start if the incumbent gets hurt in preseason. Suggesting anything else is remarkably foolish.

Prescott struggled on downfield passes all year. The fact that he was playing behind the best offensive line in the NFL didn't hurt matters. His mid-range passing was fine, which is about the same as Dobbs at this point
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Appeals to authority is a logical fallacy. Even if your views are closer to those of the scouts, it doesn't make it right. Last year my views on Dak Prescott were close to the scouts as well as neither of us thought he could throw the ball accurately enough to be a day 1 starter in the NFL QB. Guess what we were proven wrong.

Josh Dobbs will prove you and the scouts wrong as well. He's a day 1 starter. And if he lands on a good team like the Steelers, he could win a lot of games.
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IF he went to the Steelers, Mike Tomlin isn't starting him over a 2 time SB champion, please remember that.
 
#60
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Burger said:
Are we talking about the same Dobbs who lost to South Carolina because his pocket skills are mediocre at best?
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One bad game does not define a player. Dobbs is a great passer. The fact he led the SEC in almost every passing category proved that.
 
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VOL 4 Life 83 said:
IF he went to the Steelers, Mike Tomlin isn't starting him over a 2 time SB champion, please remember that.
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True.

But Roethlisberger gets hurt every year because of his playing style. If he gets hurt, Dobbs will not give the job back ala Dak Prescott.
 
#63
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
One bad game does not define a player. Dobbs is a great passer. The fact he led the SEC in almost every passing category proved that.
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No but it isn't a one time occurrence type thing. It's been an achillies heel in Dobbs since he was a freshman. This year, the SEC had a really bad crop of starting Quarterbacks. I mean when Trubinsky is the #1 rated QB in the draft, there's a huge problem.
 
#64
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
True.

But Roethlisberger gets hurt every year because of his playing style. If he gets hurt, Dobbs will not give the job back ala Dak Prescott.
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Again, that's your wildly, unqualified opinion. I get why you like him, but your matter-of-fact proclamations sound silly to informed adults.
 
#65
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114VOL said:
Again, that's your wildly, unqualified opinion. I get why you like him, but your matter-of-fact proclamations sound silly to informed adults.
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He use to post comedy gold in the politics forum. He should consider comedy.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
One bad game does not define a player. Dobbs is a great passer. The fact he led the SEC in almost every passing category proved that.
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Did you watch the same SEC as I did in 2016? There wasn't a first round QB on any team, including Dobbs.

I think your definition of great and mine are different. It's not a term you should use so loosely or, with all due respect, so stupidly. Great passers are Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady. He's a million miles from being anywhere near as great a passer as those guys.
 
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#67
As a Steeler fan I'll allow it. If anything he's better than Landry Jones right now.
 
#68
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musolfmj said:
Peyton was a Colt, we became Colt fans.

Peyton was a Bronco, we became Bronco fans.

Kinda glad the Cowboys got Prescott. I REALLY would not want to be a Cowboy fan. But I'd sure try.
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You have to support Jason Whitten.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Remember what I said a few months ago? I said Dobbs would eventually work his way to being a 2nd-3rd round pick. I said he would play well at the senior bowl, dominate the combine, dominate his pro day, and handle all the interviews masterfully. I said he would find himself comfortably in the 3rd round and might go as early as the 2nd round if a team falls in love with him.

I still stand by that. I think 3rd round is his most likely landing spot with a good shot at being a 2nd round pick if one of these teams falls in love with him. Who knows? Steelers could be that team in the 2nd round that takes him. I personally would love to see it. The Steelers would be a perfect landing spot for Josh.
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I'll be extremely disappointed if the Steelers draft him that high. If he's around in the 6th or 7th, then ok. If another team wants to draft him that high, oh well.. find another
 
#72
#72
The Steelers would be a great landing spot for Dobbs. He could sit behind a future HOF QB for 2-3 seasons and learn how to be a pro. This would actually be ideal for Dobbs IMO. He could learn a lot of perfect his trade too, then once BR retires maybe JD will be good enough by then to start.
 
#73
#73
Big Ben will retire after one or two more seasons. I think he is seriously looking at the cumulative affect of all his injuries, of which there are many.
 
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vols 30 said:
I'll be extremely disappointed if the Steelers draft him that high. If he's around in the 6th or 7th, then ok. If another team wants to draft him that high, oh well.. find another
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Dobbs is not lasting till the 6th round. Maybe before the senior bowl and combine that was the case but he's now a 3rd round prospect. I think that is where most of the teams interested in him will target him. However, I've maintained for a while now that at least one team will fall in love with and take him in the 2nd round.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
One bad game does not define a player. Dobbs is a great passer. The fact he led the SEC in almost every passing category proved that.
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Dobbs was greatly improved last year and had a very good season, especially after getting hot the last 6 games of season, starting with Tennessee Tech (minus South Carolina). But it's flat out wrong to say "he led the SEC in almost every category", that didn't happen. He led in 2 categories....td passes and qb rating.

So, he didn't lead SEC QBs in completions, attempts, completion percentage, yards per attempt, yards passing, or yards passing per game. So where are you getting your information?....and why are you even bringing this up since you don't think statistics matter whatsoever in determining a player's worth or ability anyway?
 
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